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To: roamer_1
Glad to hear from you. I'll go back and listen again, but I heard him remarking that LE was NOT all that nearby as he arrived. And that he could not visually locate the source of the incoming. Which lends credence that the Fed were deployed (on Don Carlos roof?) ready and itching to rock and roll. Autopsy reports listed many downward trajectories.

Was there an agent provocateur involved? I dunno and can't and won't construct a theory based on so many still unknowns.

My hope that Federal LE is not completely corrupted grows dimmer every day.

17 posted on 09/01/2015 5:30:02 PM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
Glad to hear from you.

Hiya don-o... hope all is well with y'all. : )

I'll go back and listen again, but I heard him remarking that LE was NOT all that nearby as he arrived.

Right, but he mentions, quite emphatically, placements of both marked and unmarked LEOs... He knew they were there. No doubt, so did others...

And that he could not visually locate the source of the incoming.

Right, though I took that to mean he could not verify because he was on the ground, and could no longer see through the field of combatants- his position would put the surrounding LEO positions on the other side of the fight from him... And while their positions on the perimeter appear elevated, I don't think they are elevated enough to compensate for the view from the ground, through the melee.

Which lends credence that the Fed were deployed (on Don Carlos roof?) ready and itching to rock and roll. Autopsy reports listed many downward trajectories.

While that wouldn't surprise me, his statement hardly qualifies much from his position on the ground, and probably focused in the near vicinity... A 'hail of rifle fire' certainly computes... his hearing was not obstructed... Though his identification of suppressed rifle fire would indicate fairly near positioning - I don't know that you'd hear suppressed fire from the rooftop across the way... Which also certainly does not deny it's existence...

Was there an agent provocateur involved? I dunno and can't and won't construct a theory based on so many still unknowns.

Yep. Agreed.

My hope that Federal LE is not completely corrupted grows dimmer every day.

I have been there for a very long while.

18 posted on 09/01/2015 6:01:50 PM PDT by roamer_1
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To: don-o

” but I heard him remarking that LE was NOT all that nearby as he arrived. “

As he describes his arrival at Twin Peaks he remarks at all the police presence and states that he felt the Bandidos would not cause trouble since the police ‘had them covered’.

Sounds like the Cossacks believed that the Waco police would protect the ‘local team’ even if the ‘local team’ decided to taunt the Bandidos.


26 posted on 09/02/2015 8:40:50 AM PDT by TexasGator
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