Posted on 08/25/2015 10:12:38 PM PDT by RC one
The issue is whether children born in the United Stateseven if their parents are foreign nationals who entered this country illegallyautomatically become citizens. Current law supposes that they doa concept termed birthright citizenship. Many people erroneously think this concept is dictated by the Constitution or enshrined in a U.S. Supreme Court decision. Not so. Section 1 of the 14th Amendmentthe Citizenship Clausestates that All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
When Senator Lyman Trumbell (D-IL), Chairman of the Judiciary Committee (and a key figure in the drafting and adoption of the 14th Amendment), was asked what the phrase and subject to the jurisdiction thereof meant, he responded: That means subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof. What do we mean by complete jurisdiction thereof? Not owing allegiance to anyone else. That is what it means. Only U.S. citizens owe complete allegiance to the United States. Everyone present in the United States is subject to its laws (and hence its jurisdiction in a general sense), but only citizens can be drafted or prosecuted for treason...
Senator Howard agreed with Trumbells explanation: I concur entirely with the honorable Senator from Illinois [Trumbell], in holding that the word jurisdiction, as here employed, ought to be construed so as to imply a full and complete jurisdiction on the part of the United States,
; that is to say, the same jurisdiction in extent and quality as applies to every citizen of the United States now. This exchange supports very strongly the conclusion that the Citizenship Clause was intended to mean the same as the Civil Rights Act of 1866excluding children born in the United States to foreign nationals.
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No answer to the Indian citizenship thing, eh? Maybe after you’ve thunk on it or something.
As I've just pointed out, I "thunk" on it back in February, you Dumbsh*t. And you had no reply then. And we both know you won't have a reply now.
Give it up. Take your rightful seat on the sidelines. You're totally outclassed here.
-PJ
Everyone knows Indians weren't citizens until after the Indian Citizenship act of 1924. They were arrested, they were imprisoned, they were executed, meaning they were subject to our laws, but guess what captain dumbass? They weren't subject to our jurisdiction in the context of the 14th amendment.
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