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To: BroJoeK; DiogenesLamp
I think that perhaps DL is from a fictional land called British Union. After declaring that Article IV, 2, 3 implied that ALL states must embrace slavery, he later stated that until this thread he hadn't given much that clause much thought. Shirley, as an expert on Lincoln's mindset, DL couldn't possibly, in his years of research, have missed the part (near the beginning) of Lincoln's 1st Innaugural, wherein he said:

"There is much controversy about the delivering up of fugitives from service or labor. The clause I now read is as plainly written in the Constitution as any other of its provisions:

No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall in consequence of any law or regulation therein be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.

It is scarcely questioned that this provision was intended by those who made it for the reclaiming of what we call fugitive slaves; and the intention of the lawgiver is the law. All members of Congress swear their support to the whole Constitution—to this provision as much as to any other. To the proposition, then, that slaves whose cases come within the terms of this clause "shall be delivered up" their oaths are unanimous. Now, if they would make the effort in good temper, could they not with nearly equal unanimity frame and pass a law by means of which to keep good that unanimous oath?

There is some difference of opinion whether this clause should be enforced by national or by State authority, but surely that difference is not a very material one. If the slave is to be surrendered, it can be of but little consequence to him or to others by which authority it is done. And should anyone in any case be content that his oath shall go unkept on a merely unsubstantial controversy as to how it shall be kept?"

Perhaps DL didn't have time to settle into his seat before Abe got these words out. Of course, Abe was quoting the fugitive slave clause in the Constitution, but then went on to discuss the Fugitive Slave Act. I have to wonder if, when Abe said "the intention of the clause was scarcely questioned...." DL would have raised his hand and asked if it included wagons.

910 posted on 09/06/2015 3:30:22 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: HandyDandy
You quote Abe Lincoln, but nothing in your quote proves your point. You cap it off with snark.

Next.

916 posted on 09/06/2015 3:39:50 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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