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To: HandyDandy
Thanks so much for your link to the “Union of Crowns”. Notice the words, such as, “Crown”, “Kingdom”, “Monarch”, “Sovereign”, “King”, “Queen” (well, you get the idea. I hope).

Yeah, but did you notice the word "Union"? They took their Union seriously too, and the colonies had no legal background in British law to support their contention that they had a God given right to leave.

Once the Colonies had asserted and affirmed that right, one would think the government they created would likewise recognize that same right for others.

Certainly you are not suggesting that our colonies where a sovereign kingdom and an equal partner of the “Union of Crowns”.

No more so than you assert that the Southern States were an equal partner of the "Union of the Colonies." From what has been discussed here and elsewhere, it appears they were paying the lion's share of the Federal revenues. Depending on who you ask, the estimates i've seen range from 50% to 80% of all the money which the Feds collected.

20% of the population contributing 50-80% of the cost? Doesn't sound much like an equal partner sort of deal to me.

You insist on making parallels between our declaring independence from a Monarchy (as colonies) to the Southern States seceding from a Union that was formed by the ideas and thoughts of free men.

Because the two things are an exact match, or would be if King George was a fanatical nutbag willing to kill massive numbers of his own people just to force subjugation upon the colonies.

In 1776, 13 slave holding colonies asserted a right to Independence from the British Union. Their armies were led by a slave owning General from Virginia. The Union forces offered freedom to any slave that would fight against the Rebels.

Yeah, that's completely different from what happened in 1861.

405 posted on 08/17/2015 5:37:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Because the two things are an exact match, or would be if King George was a fanatical nutbag willing to kill massive numbers of his own people just to force subjugation upon the colonies.

In 1776, 13 slave holding colonies asserted a right to Independence from the British Union. Their armies were led by a slave owning General from Virginia. The Union forces offered freedom to any slave that would fight against the Rebels.

Since you have decided to create an entity and call it the "British Union" that fought "rebels" during the Revolutionary War, I am having trouble keeping up with you. When I google "British Union"......... Well, let's just say don't select "images". BTW, how many Frenchmen did Georgie kill? Not to mention the many other military conflicts during his reign?

Let me guess, your next argument will be that the Colonies broke away from the British Kingdom in order to preserve their "peculiar institution".

And you really should stop defending King Georgie. He didn't consider the matter settled, he just took a break to defeat Napoleon at Waterloo. Unfortunately for the United Kingdom of the British Empire, when they did have time to send the Greatest Navy in The History Of The World to finish up the pesky little matter of those uncouth american rabble-rousers, they ran into Old Hickory. Come to think of it, now I am not even sure if Old Hickory considered himself a northerner, a southerner, or just plain an American.

419 posted on 08/17/2015 6:35:23 PM PDT by HandyDandy (Don't make-up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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