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To: DiogenesLamp
Apparently the continued status of slavery was completely negotiable up until about two years after the war started.

Your people never negotiated with any of the slaves about slavery.

Your people lost. They were tested by history and lost.

The 13 Colonies was a winning idea. The Confederacy was a losing idea.

History found the secessionists to be losers and unworthy. It tossed them onto the dungheap and that's where they will remain. Don't be in such a hurry to join them.

399 posted on 08/17/2015 5:05:02 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: Tau Food
Your people never negotiated with any of the slaves about slavery.

Union law did not obligate anyone to do such a thing.

They were tested by history and lost.

They were tested by an overwhelmingly powerful and intractable Monarch, and they lost. Do you mock the Poles for losing to Hitler? Were they tested by history and lost?

The 13 Colonies was a winning idea. The Confederacy was a losing idea.

They were the same idea, and you are right, but not for the reasons you think. The bludgeoning of the Confederacy was the loss of that Idea put forth in 1776 which was called "Independence" and "Consent of the Governed."

History found the secessionists to be losers and unworthy. It tossed them onto the dungheap and that's where they will remain.

You presume to speak for History, but History speaks eloquently enough for itself. By your standards, the French, the Czechs, the Poles and the Dutch were all "losers and unworthy", because they were defeated by a massively superior military force.

I don't consider the Nazi's claim to power to be a worthy argument.

402 posted on 08/17/2015 5:18:41 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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