The difference between your position and mine is that I have no cognitive dissonance between what happened in 1776 and what happened in 1861. My position consistently applies the same principle to both eras. Yours does not.
Your position applies one set of rules to 1776, and a completely different and subjective set of rules to 1861. You have yourselves believing two opposite and contradictory things, both of which cannot be true.
It is actually a fascinating psychological dichotomy, and it is eerily reminiscent of the same sort of mental bait and switch Liberals do routinely with everything else.
And, that’s okay. It’s okay that you disagree with other people about this matter and it’s okay that you’re unhappy with the way in which our history unfolded. It shouldn’t shock you to learn that I am unhappy with some of the things that happened in our nation’s history, too. It’s all very normal to feel that way.
As I have mentioned before, it is not a consequence of my being "unhappy with some of the things that happened in our nation's history", from my perspective it is more serious than that. The US FedGov is a "Titanic", and the math says it's going to sink.
We are being told we have to go down with the ship because years ago they fought a war about the right to leave, and the subjugation side won.
This is no comfort to those of us who want to escape the sinking should the need arise. We are less concerned with how bad things happened 150 years ago than we are that as a consequence of those bad things which happened 150 years ago, we too will be forced to undergo bad things happening in the present.
In other words, what happened 150 years ago in the past is used today as a justification for a suicide pact. This puts a man in the awkward position of having to rehabilitate the bad press of the previous attempts to become independent in order to justify an assertion of the same principle today.
That I am unhappy that 600 thousand people were unnecessarily killed 150 years ago is completely beside the point.
I am pro-USA. I am anti-slavery. I am glad that we won our independence and I am glad that the USA survived the 1860's intact.
There is no cognitive dissonance. See post 933 above. I apply those same rules to both struggles.
The US FedGov is a "Titanic", and the math says it's going to sink.
If we are creating a Titanic, it is our fault. I see no point in trying to blame dead people for what we do.
This is no comfort to those of us who want to escape the sinking should the need arise.
This is not a jail and you have a right to leave anytime you want. But, you can only take with you the people who want to join you. Leave your neighbors out of it.
As a practical matter, you can even declare independence and stay here. Put on a wig and post a declaration on your gate. So long as you're not deemed a danger to yourself or others, I don't think anyone will bother you. It will be when you try to interfere with the operation of the government that you'll run into trouble. So, leave the mailman alone.
That I am unhappy that 600 thousand people were unnecessarily killed 150 years ago is completely beside the point.
I join you in wishing things had been different. I am also unhappy that slavery was once legal. It's normal for us to wish that we could change our history, but we need to accept that we can't.
Good work