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Forget the naughty step! Reasoning with children is the best way to make them stop misbehaving
Daily Mail ^ | August 6, 2015 | Colin Fernandez

Posted on 08/06/2015 4:16:53 PM PDT by rickmichaels

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To: rickmichaels
Wrong. God know everything. He's smarter than this so and so. He said foolishness is bound in heart of a child. You can't reason with foolishness. Now, if your goal is to make a bunch of DemonRat voters, this is the right way to go about it.
41 posted on 08/06/2015 5:07:11 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: rickmichaels

Yes, a well reasoned smack on the ass...


42 posted on 08/06/2015 5:08:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Craftmore

Yeah...reasoning is ok after the storm subsides but there’s NOTHING like good ol’ fashioned negative reinforcement to leave a lasting impression (pun intended).


43 posted on 08/06/2015 5:08:31 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is simply majoritarianism. It is incompatible with real freedom.)
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To: Chickensoup

A look is all it takes. They know there’s something tangible behind that look.


44 posted on 08/06/2015 5:09:38 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
[...] smarting off to our mother like that with our dad in earshot.

There were two levels of that with my father, both dire, and the latter dreadful:

"What did you say to your mother?"

and...

"What did you say to my wife?"

Both were a matter for corporal punishment... But the latter was hell to pay.

45 posted on 08/06/2015 5:11:27 PM PDT by roamer_1
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To: riverrunner

Winner!


46 posted on 08/06/2015 5:11:34 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: rickmichaels

I expected my kids to not act up. I expected them to behave.
They knew there were consequences.
Teach kids early that there WILL be consequences.
When out in public engage them in whatever you are doing.
Raise expectations and be consistent.


47 posted on 08/06/2015 5:12:35 PM PDT by two23 (Ignore the media. It isn't propaganda if we don't listen.)
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To: ModelBreaker

I rarely have to spank my kids. Like maybe a couple times in the last year. They obey because they know I will spank them.


48 posted on 08/06/2015 5:12:47 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Raycpa

I didn’t have this skill set with my kids but learned it in time to use it on my granddaughter - she lived with us as a toddler. Holding time out. Gently but firmly holding her keeping her arms and legs secure and not moving. She started out screaming. I ignored it. I looked in her eyes, talked a bit to her. After a while she would burn out - you can’t keep the intensity up forever. I would ask her whether she was okay and ready once she quit kicking and screaming. She would say, “yes.” Then we were okay. Occasionally she would be hyper and I would ask her, “Do you need me to hold you?” It wasn’t a threat and once or twice she actually took me up on it.


49 posted on 08/06/2015 5:19:59 PM PDT by Mercat (I will only vote prolife)
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To: Chickensoup

I agree with your approach. There are places and times where children should not be taken. Saw a couple in the store last night at 9 p.m. with four kids who were just destroying everything. IMO one of them should have stayed home with the kids and the other one done the shopping by themselves. Win-win for everybody.

Kids throwing a tantrum at home? That’s why they make ear plugs. Oldest grandson had a real sassy mouth. After a couple of times of having his mouth washed out with soap, he learned to zip his lip!


50 posted on 08/06/2015 5:24:53 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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S AVE O UR S ITE


We cannot exist
without you.



51 posted on 08/06/2015 5:31:53 PM PDT by RedMDer (Support Free Republic and Keep FReedom ALIVE!)
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To: dangus

I used the “reasoning approach” With my Chinese Lady friend;s daughter. It always worked! But she’s an exceptional human! College at 16, with a double major in Chemistry and Bio-mecanical Engineering. Just had to show her the truth, and she’s come right around!


52 posted on 08/06/2015 5:32:57 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: rickmichaels

When a child is throwing a tantrum, reasoning with the little blighter may be the last thing on a parent’s mind.


I’m from the “old school.” When I raised my child he learned at a very young age that bad behaviour begat PAIN! The worse the tantrum...the worse the pain.

You gotta think of it like breaking a horse. That thing in his mouth is not a toy...it’s something that is painful if he does not do what he is supposed to do.

The same thing applies with a real good “ass whupin!”

Children back in my day were normally well behaved...not like the little urchins I see in the store every day and from the homes where either dad has been physiologically castrated or isn’t there at all.


53 posted on 08/06/2015 5:37:21 PM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Grams A
There are really some good responses on the thread. I probably used most of them at one time

Children are grown now and are quite outstanding individuals. they have been out of the house for 20 years. Raised our children in the late 60s in to the 80’s. I have been very interested in they ways discipline has changed over the years. I think a lot of parents are to lax these days.

54 posted on 08/06/2015 5:37:52 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: I cannot think of a name
I could just imagine me and my brother smarting off to our mother like that with our dad in earshot. Sixty years later and I'd probably still be typing this standing up!

Same here. For preteen and young teenage boys, at least, fear of sudden, painful, violent death works wonders for behavioral training.

55 posted on 08/06/2015 5:40:04 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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"Ive found with my 5 children that a smack on the ass worked real well."

When my five siblings and I were growing up in the fifties and sixties, we learned at a very early age that crying, whining, and throwing a fit would result in a severely warmed rear end rather than getting what we wanted. So we didn't do it. None of us ended up in prison, and we all did well financially. I guess that was just a miracle. /s

56 posted on 08/06/2015 6:17:45 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: cripplecreek

It’s the four-year-old that LINDSEY looks like.

Seriously, you sometimes have to WAIT before “reasoning it out.” I’ve let my just-turned-three-year-old scream a good five minutes about how he didn’t want to do something. Then, when he’s done, talk about it with him. Nine times out of ten, he then willingly goes along with what I want of him. I’ll admit that the tenth time, he’s convinced me. (Stuff like I’m trying to put him to bed when I promised him he could do something before going to bed and forgot about it.) Maybe a little more often than that. And when he knows that “reasoning” doesn’t simply mean, “do it my way or else,” he’s become much more likely to try to talk to me before blowing a gasket.


57 posted on 08/06/2015 8:19:26 PM PDT by dangus
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To: demshateGod

Biblically, teaching is a perfectly legitimate method of instilling discipline. The bible compares new disciples to children. Yet they were taught, not beaten. Simply never forget that you are the teacher, and they are the pupil, and they MUST do what you decide they must do.


58 posted on 08/06/2015 8:25:37 PM PDT by dangus
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To: rickmichaels

I still contend that whippings are the most effective means of punishment. Look at all the great men and women throughout history whose parents loved them enough to discipline with love.


59 posted on 08/06/2015 8:36:10 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("Fools are my theme, let satire be my song."- Lord Byron)
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To: Irish Eyes

I probably have a few years on you - first one born in 1962, next one in 1963 so they were in college by the time we were 40 and we had lots of time to work on our own goals, aspirations and accumulating wealth. IMO people wait too long to have babies now. Seems like it was a lot easier when were young, poor, had lots of energy, kids were expected to mind, and mother and father had separate defined roles within the family structure.

Not sure how we were able to manage without all the nanny government rules but I do think we were generally more mature, street smart and had more common sense than most 18 and 19 year olds today. So maybe it is best that they wait a while before having children.


60 posted on 08/06/2015 8:46:45 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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