Posted on 07/29/2015 1:04:14 PM PDT by Leaning Right
Regarding the recent shooting of a motorist by a University of Cincinnati police officer...I know it's a minor point, but why in the world is a university police officer making a traffic stop for a licence plate violation?
They are not rent-a-cops, they are state law enforcement officers, albeit bored.
Soooo. . .they are empowered with the same authority as state officers and enforce state and university laws.
In most jurisdictions, especially at public universities. But I really appreciate you pointing this out. A number of good friends are campus police, they go through the same training as municipal police and state police, often have higher qualifications (their jobs are highly sought after), have arrest powers throughout the state, have to deal with a poisonous hormonal soup of angst-filled 18-24 year olds day in and out, and then they have to put up with jokers who tell them they are not "real" cops. Do they have SWAT teams and attack helicopters? No. But the vast majority of municipal and state police deal with exactly the same mix of stupid criminal garbage as the campus cops do, at the same rate, and facing the same problems.
No. Depends on the jurisdiction, with many states authorizing state wide authority for campus police that is identical with municipal and state police.
***I feel for the man killed - if he just had his drivers license on him all that would have been avoided.***
The reason he didn’t produce his license was that it was suspended...indefinitely. Here’s more:
“DuBose has been charged with driving without a license more than 13 times between 1995 and 2009, according to court records obtained by Cincinnati’s Fox 19. He has also been charged with driving while suspended eight times from 2005 and 2011 and with failure to display a proper a proper license plate on his vehicle four times between 1995 and 2009. Dubose had more than 75 offenses charged to him over his lifetime.”
http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/07/19/police-person-shot-mt-auburn/30391931/
It’s the job of the cop to de-escalate the situation.
I’m very pro-cop, but no one deserves to get shot in the head at a simple traffic stop (even if they try to slowly drive away), including the cop.
Looks like that practice will be ending in Cincinnati, pronto.
The prosecutor has called for the university police to be disbanded and the Cincinnati police to patrol the campus.
After the inevitable lawsuit is settled, the university won’t be able to afford their own police force.
It wasn’t a guard. It was a police officer employed by the university.
Yes, it’s a tragedy all around.
The victim lost his life and the officer’s life is over.
Feeling sad for the families of both.
Just an observation, did anyone see the bullet hole in the door?
Crime on and around the UC campus has been running rampant the past several years. The school is in a bad part of town. Living in Cincinnati, I am glad none of my six kids chose to go there.
Thank you.
I get your point, but criminals that run, don't stop, because of a traffic violation endanger people's lives. . .and in my opinion, those that run should be indicted for attempted murder, or at least reckless endangerment, as a car is a lethal weapon and can (and does) kill people. . .especially if the runner is solely running because he ran a red light and refused to stop. Besides, who knows what else may be involved or at play, from drug running to kidnapping. . .one never knows. So, if a guy runs because of a traffic stop, is he running because he has done nothing more than not signal a lane change, or is he running because he has a child or woman he just kidnapped stuffed in the trunk.
ITA. If you break the law, you should pay the price. But beginning to pull away during a routine traffic stop shouldn’t result in you immediately getting a bullet in your head.
This case makes me think of when police cars could give chase at 100mp through city streets just because someone ran a red light. People got hurt and killed in the pursuits, and eventually the laws changed so that police were forced to use restraint in automobile pursuits. Granted, if someone is suspected of having just committed a major crime or there might be a kidnap victim in the car, the police should be able to pursue and apprehend the perp using most means possible, including high speed chase. But endangering civilians just to get someone whose license plate may be expired is not worth it.
I had a cousin who was killed when a cop car rammed his car during the pursuit of someone else.
So in other words, cops have a terrible job- using restraint whenever possible but catching the bad guys whenever possible. I wouldn’t want to be a cop.
USPP killed Vinnie?
But those are White Privilege laws designed to hold down diversity.
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