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To: conservativejoy

Why on earth would Trump, the hero for many on here, HELP elect Hillary by running 3rd party and WHY, if Todd is to be believed, is he ALREADY working to get the nod as an independent?


14 posted on 07/26/2015 4:08:44 PM PDT by TNMOUTH
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To: TNMOUTH
Why on earth would Trump, the hero for many on here, HELP elect Hillary by running 3rd party and WHY, if Todd is to be believed, is he ALREADY working to get the nod as an independent?


28 posted on 07/26/2015 4:20:16 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'll vote for Jeb when Terri Schiavo endorses him.)
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To: TNMOUTH
Here's my numbers:

If there were a Trump / Cruz ticket or vice versa as independents:

I 40% D 38% R 24%

46 posted on 07/26/2015 4:28:42 PM PDT by onona (If I agree with something Donald says in a forest, and no one hears, am I still a "Trumper" ?)
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To: TNMOUTH

You obviously have the delusion that average Americans can be classified as “Republicans” or “Democrats”, when most normal people don’t give two sh*ts about either one.

Many voters who pull the lever for the D are acting out of perceived self-interest. There are ways to pull in a lot of these voters, at least white ones.

Trump has cross-party appeal that none of the others do.


48 posted on 07/26/2015 4:35:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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To: TNMOUTH
That is exactly the wrong question. The real question is, why are the Republicans soooooo worried about him getting the nomination? Is it that he just might actually represent some of the people out here?

It is true that the record for third parties in the US isn't great. The TR defection in 2012 elected Wilson. Most scholarly evidence, however, says that Perot did NOT "elect Clinton," and that he took votes equally. I think a case could be made that in his speeches and press, by attacking Bush more than Clinton, he disproportionately damaged Bush, but hard to tell.

On the other hand, essentially a 3d party won in 1860 when the newly founded Republicans, only four years old, defeated the Constitutional Union Party, the Democrats, and a third splinter. Even then, however, the anti-slave group was as divided as the pro-slave group, so it can be argued that the 3d party GOP won the election flat out.

51 posted on 07/26/2015 4:38:02 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: TNMOUTH

Here’s a better question. why do you believe Chuck Todd?


79 posted on 07/26/2015 5:17:22 PM PDT by skippyjonjones
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To: TNMOUTH

“Why on earth would Trump, the hero for many on here, HELP elect Hillary”

One would be asking a less whiny question by asking “Why would Republicans nominate a candidate that can’t get a majority of the vote, because they are yet another big-government, statist putz?”


83 posted on 07/26/2015 5:18:19 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: TNMOUTH

“Why on earth would Trump, the hero for many on here, HELP elect Hillary by running 3rd party and WHY, if Todd is to be believed, is he ALREADY working to get the nod as an independent.”

More to the point, why would someone who is winning in the polls and has a fair chance of getting the nomination bother with Second party run?

Answer: he wouldn’t. If he is looking into it, it’s with the idea of keeping the gop leadership on a short leash.


105 posted on 07/26/2015 7:15:21 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( The ballot is a suggestion box for slaves and fools)
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