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To: DiogenesLamp
The Founders were themselves slavers. All 13 colonies were slave states. Try again. Now i'm not going to read the rest of your message. You start off a message with that sort of boner and it's just not worth the trouble of addressing the rest.

The Founders cause was freedom, the south's cause was slavery. Big moral difference there.

612 posted on 07/30/2015 11:18:46 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
The Founders cause was freedom, the south's cause was slavery. Big moral difference there.

The Founders cause was Independence. The Founders owned Slaves and did not free them.

The Southern States cause was Independence and just like the founders, they owned slaves.

The Union freed no slaves because they were moral, the Union freed slaves as punishment to the South for trying to be independent.

As I have already pointed out before, but perhaps you didn't see it because you don't look like you are reading anything very closely, according to General Sherman, the South could have kept their slaves if they just accepted rule from Washington D.C.

General Sherman addressing a crowd at a Southern Town which his troops were occupying:

" Last year they could have saved their slaves, but now it is too late."

Do you know what is immoral? Fighting a war to subjugate another people, and then lying about it by telling everyone you fought to free slaves when you really fought to make slaves.

613 posted on 07/30/2015 11:26:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
“The Founders cause was freedom, the south's cause was slavery. Big moral difference there.”

Your statement helps me to better understand why you write the things you do. You want to see slavery (and perhaps racism) as a southern problem rather than a national or global problem.

You don't refute that every northern colony signed on for slavery - you ignore it.

I can understand your thinking because we see it on display so often today - every time the television is turned on.

You can tell all your friends you are not prejudiced, or you are not a racist, because you are emotionally schnchonized with Abraham Lincoln and he, after all, “freed the slaves.”

In other words, cheap grace.

619 posted on 07/30/2015 12:24:38 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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