[DoodleDawg]

That’s immaterial. The same right is invoked for both, only the mechanics of exercising the right are different. Similarly, whether I print a pamphlet, or phone my representatives, or stand out on the street corner with a megaphone, it’s all speech, just the mechanics differ.

But Lincoln was only talking about one, rebellion. So his quote does not support your claim.

Obviously you don’t need power to have a right, only to exercise it successfully, and only in certain circumstances.

Then why is Lincoln saying "having the power" if you say power is not needed?

[Boogieman]

“But Lincoln was only talking about one, rebellion. So his quote does not support your claim.”

Indeed it does, because there is NO “right to rebellion”. There is only the right to self-governance and that is what Lincoln was advocating. You cannot advocate that right, and then limit your advocacy to only one method of exercising the right. That is just foolishness. It’s as foolish as the liberals saying they believe in the “right to bear arms” but only if you want to bear black powder muskets.

“Then why is Lincoln saying “having the power” if you say power is not needed?”

Because he is speaking of the practicalities of the matter. He can’t be speaking of the principle of the matter, or his argument would undermine the very idea that the right he is advocating exists.