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To: Boogieman
That’s a distinction without a difference, because they are the same right! The right to self-governance, aka the right to self-determination. The only difference is in the method being employed to exercise the right.

Secession implies a peaceful, legal, orderly process while rebellion is the exact opposite. Lincoln is obviously talking about rebellion since he adds the qualifier "...and having the power...". Why do you need power if your parting is by mutual consent?

157 posted on 07/22/2015 12:17:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

“Secession implies a peaceful, legal, orderly process while rebellion is the exact opposite.”

That’s immaterial. The same right is invoked for both, only the mechanics of exercising the right are different. Similarly, whether I print a pamphlet, or phone my representatives, or stand out on the street corner with a megaphone, it’s all speech, just the mechanics differ.

“Lincoln is obviously talking about rebellion since he adds the qualifier “...and having the power...”. Why do you need power if your parting is by mutual consent?”

Obviously you don’t need power to have a right, only to exercise it successfully, and only in certain circumstances. If you needed power in order to claim a right, it wouldn’t be a right. Lincoln is speaking of practicalities, so don’t confuse them with limitations on the right itself.


165 posted on 07/22/2015 12:35:03 PM PDT by Boogieman
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