Do you consider Sen. John McCain a war hero?
Which war?
Whose side?
Posted on 07/20/2015 4:43:20 PM PDT by Citizen Zed
Freep this poll...
Being motivated strictly from the standpoint of helping his brothers is one thing, but it is also clear that if he had taken the easy way out because he was the son of an Admiral, he would have been viewed as a dirtbag and traitor to his fellow prisoners. Therefore, he did not not have a realistic way out.
Look up “Audie Murphy.” He was a war hero. McCain was a prisoner of war. He fought on no battlefields and crashed a plane on our aircraft carrier, endangering the sailors on board, before crashing again and being taken prisoner. His father was an admiral, so the Navy couldn’t wash him out.
It looks like the NOs have it.
True. I’ll go one further - he’s a sellout. The Manchurian Candidate who never was.
“Do you consider Sen. John McCain a war hero?”
Yes, as I do every single person who has ever served in the United States Services honorably, no more, no less. If we hold the definition of “war hero” to an even higher standard, then no, I don’t.
Duke Cunningham was a war hero. He shot down 5 MIGs. He also admitted to taking bribes from defense contractors when he served in congress. I believe that cancels out his hero status.
There are too many things to list that cancel McCain’s hero status...IF he ever deserved it to begin with.
Yes,aint it strange that a howling asshole like trump says what a lot of americans are thinking and that none of the other candidates have the balls to say one tenth of what he says.Yeah, what an asshole.
Many POW's went through what McCain did, and worse. They are not normally referred to as "war heroes." Perhaps they should be, but why is McCain any different?
Maybe the "war hero" meme took hold when he was running for office.
Of course he was a war hero. Lousy Senator yeah. ..but the folks bad mouthing his service? NO CLASS.
I might have caved in about ten seconds. But if I had I would be living in anonymity (sp) and would refuse to allow anyone to even discuss my military experience.
As much as I consider Bowe Bergdahl a hero.
I served honorably. But I did absolutely nothing heroic. I technically “earned” medals I never applied for because I didn’t think I deserved them. That doesn’t make me a hero either.
Saved this to my hard drive some years ago. Hope it helps.
THE TRUE MILITARY RECORD OF JOHN MCCAIN WRITTEN BY AN ACTIVE MARINE.
9/03/08
McCain has never really earned anything. He is from a wealth pampered background and not fit to lead this nation.
A “war hero” doesn’t finished 894th out of 899 and still get stationed at a Navy champagne unit and promoted ahead of all but two of his 898 other classmates.
A “war hero” doesn’t crash three U.S. Navy jets out of sheer incompetence and ineptitude, including two during non-combat training sessions.
A “war hero” doesn’t get written up on drunk-and-disorderly, fraternization, disobeying orders, and insubordination charges more than two dozen times in less than three years.
A “war hero” doesn’t get promoted to squadron commander of the air field named after his own grandfather immediately after crashing his third airplane.
A “war hero” doesn’t have all the military records that cover his time in Vietnam and all disciplinary actions against him censored and sealed “as a matter of national security.”
A “war hero” doesn’t get 28 medals awarded all after-the-fact “for bravery” for no other reason than being shot down and captured and then go on a celebrity public relations tour because he’s the son of two acclaimed Navy admirals.
A “war hero” doesn’t repeatedly cheat on the wife who’s back in the states waiting for him, and then cheat on her more when he returns to the states, and then divorce and abandon her.
A “war hero” doesn’t systematically vote against every single pay and benefit increase for military and veterans throughout his entire political career, all the while claiming to be “the soldier’s Congressman,” and then take credit for the passage of a G.I. benefits bill he that voted AGAINST.
A “war hero” McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom. McCain’s second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. “Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula,” Timberg wrote, “he took out some power lines [reminiscent of the 1998 incident in which a Marine Corps jet sliced through the cables of a gondola at an Italian ski resort, killing 20] which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral.”
McCain’s third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. Timberg reported that McCain radioed, “I’ve got a flameout” and went through standard relight procedures three times before ejecting at one thousand feet. McCain landed on a deserted beach moments before the plane slammed into a clump of trees. McCain’s fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when McCain’s A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms an d a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi. For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals. “McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat,” explains Bill Bell, a veteran of Vietnam and former chief of the U.S. Office for POW/MIA Affairs — the first official U.S. representative in Vietnam since the 1973 fall of Saigon. “Since McCain got 28 medals,” Bell continues, “that equals out to about a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys — grunts on the ground — who had more than 7,000 hours in combat and I can tell you that there were times and situations where I’m sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison.
The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.” For years, McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism. McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America’s POW-hero presidential candidate.
This article was written by an active, unnamed Marine. It was published by Gale Toensing founder of the Corner Report.com and she sent it to me. It is a true account of McCain’s real war record and evidence of his lack of fitness for the office of President.
So a fighter pilot that gets shot down is a hero? How about the guy that makes to the target and comes home? Isn’t he the real hero?
I recall seeing T-shirts right after the 1008 election — including worn by professional athletes — in which Obama was shown punching and even bloodying McCain in a cartoonish boxing skit. How come liberals weren’t upset with that image of a war hero being punched out by Barry?
In my opinion, if someone is performing a heroic act, and in the performance of that act, he/she is captured by the enemy and held prisoner of war, then I would consider that person heroic because of his/her actions.
On the other hand, if someone gets shot down in an aircraft or gets captured while fighting on the ground, I consider them to be a prisoner of war who had the misfortune of being captured by the enemy.
McCain was shot down, captured by the enemy, held in prison for several years and tortured by the enemy. Does torture in and of itself make a person a hero? Does the tortured prisoner perform a heroic act simply by being tortured? In my opinion, the answer is NO.
I respect McCain for managing to survive horrid torture for several years and coming out of it in reasonable condition. That is it for me. I do not consider him a hero. As for being a US Senator supposedly representing AZ, in my opinion, he has been a disaster and a disgrace.
its the classic Soros media squirrel strategy .
Didn’t McCain abandon a sick wife to remarry into money?
What does THAT make him?
Perfect response. He is a war hero and a ...lousy Senator . Except on national defense issues. It is time for a primary to take him out and Dr. Keli West could do it. Still I will be voting for ..Walker not Trump.
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