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To: rarestia
I have used 8 and and I won't buy a system with it that I can't retrofit 7 on or, optionally, have come with 10 natively.

It is not wise to fit tour desktop experience to a 3-inch failed phone environment, then make that phone environment your primary world view across all platforms. Microsoft agrees with me and not you. Those who think your way are fired and gone from Microsoft. They went with Microsoft's profits. Have you heard that Microsoft is giving away Windows 10 for free? They have to do this to entice people back. By the way, Apple sales continue to do well and have been steadily growing. The PC market has dwindled because no one wants Windows 8 crud to have to put up with.

I used Device Manager as an example. No one should have to guess and type, when before, you could explore logically.

Now, you can be assaulted with full-time little video windows and have Microsoft, by default, know every keystroke you type in that ever-needed search area. This is a wonderful paradigm, right?

Microsoft did this only to jumpstart apps for its failed phone division (did you hear about the recent Nokia charge-off?). It failed for desktops AND phones (and pads really aren't doing well, either).

So, why are you defending what even Microsoft says is not defensible?

60 posted on 07/20/2015 5:56:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

“tour” = “your”

Another typo due to phone and poor proofing on my part.


65 posted on 07/20/2015 6:50:31 AM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Double-edged disclosure: I have several Microsoft certifications and work as a Microsoft systems architect. I have a very broad and very deep knowledge set with Microsoft technologies.

Windows 8 itself was not developed for a failed phone environment. Windows 8 was designed with tablets (Surface) and touchscreen operating environments in mind. It’s done VERY well in both of those sectors. Windows 8 was also the next iteration of Microsoft’s hardened kernel where APIs could no longer run as “kernel mode” and required a specific hook to do anything at a kernel level, which is arguably unnecessary anymore. Your argument that Windows 8 was designed for profit is faulty and rebutted by the fact you’re arguing about it in the first place.

Microsoft is NOT “giving away Windows 10 for free.” On the contrary, they are granting a one-year upgrade period for currently-licensed OS owners. If you have Windows 7 or Windows 8, you can upgrade to Windows 10 at no cost. After a year, you’ll have to buy the OS or an OS upgrade package. They’re asking people to migrate to bring their platforms to a consistent level for one very public reason: they’re killing off x86 (32-bit) support! Windows 7 and Windows 8 support 32-bit operating environments. The amount of bloat present in the operating system due to retaining of files for legacy support is staggering, and they’ve said, “Enough.” This is Microsoft’s way of warning the public: upgrade or die.

Whether or not you understand it, if you own an Apple device, upgrades like this happen several times a year, oftentimes changing the UI. Apple is not immune from public criticism for UI changes. Microsoft is just a bigger target.

Full time video windows? Keylogging? What are you on about?

Your focus is shifting each time you try to rebut the argument. This is what I mean about people in these threads. You’re making Microsoft out to be some sort of ghoul. If you have a problem with the UI, just say you have a problem with the UI. Otherwise, don’t sit here and argue Microsoft eccentricities with FReepers who are certified experts in their products.


68 posted on 07/20/2015 8:36:30 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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