Posted on 07/19/2015 7:22:11 AM PDT by tbw2
The Koran contains many contradictory statements and confusing verses that even those who know classical Arabic conflict on their meaning. What are some of the major contradictory statements in the Koran, and the verses that take precedence over others? What are some of the sources of the Koran's stories that history has overlooked? What is the historical context for some of the stories and events in the Koran?
The authors review started out promising, but became such a jumble mess that it needs its own translation. I think the second or third whiskey was kicking in by the final paragraph.
However, I did find this nugget: “the virgins in heaven waiting for believers are actually white raisins.”
If somebody can post the Helen Thomas pic, we might be able to confirm this.
Fortunately for us Infidels, Islam is filled with heretics who don't want to get our blood on their hands and will contort Islam to accommodate their desired lifestyles-even befriending us Infidels and collaborating with us.
The two biggest examples would be King Abdullah in Jordan, and al Sissi in Egypt. They have to be at the top of he fundamental Muslim's hit list.
The split between the heretical Shias and the Sunnis works in our favor also. - Tom
From the review:
“The author cites the great gift Islamic civilization gave by preserving works of the Greeks and Romans during the Dark Ages, while ignoring the relatively moribund society that has existed since then.”
And this reviewer as well as the anonymous author ignore that fact most works of classical Western civilization then existent, were systematically destroyed wherever they were encountered by the test: if it is in the koran, then it is superfluous and must be destroyed; if it is not in the koran then it is anathema and must be destroyed.
What remained after the heyday of the Varsity under Mohammad and his Disciples is what we have today, the known missing works are called “lost” out of ancient political correctness; what remains could even be called a fortuitous accident, not a gift. The “lost works” constituted the bulk of the literary and scientific knowledge of classical Western civilization. Even what we know of classical Christianity is only what survived.
So great was the destruction that perhaps only ten percent of classical literature and knowledge survived the purge, ushering in the Dark Ages. Things which were known and lost were not rediscovered for centuries, like Galileo’s rediscovery of the telescope, eyeglasses, magnifying lenses, large ship building, early computers, astronomical knowledge, and much more.
Islamic “civilization” only remains moribund until the hudna ends and new and more terrible jihads begin. The hudna ended on 911.
Tamara Wilhite’s review was apparently never proof read, or edited and as a result it is difficult to follow:
The The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran: A Contribution to the Decoding of the Language of the Koran” by Christoph Lexenberg is mentioned and she says:
“This book isn’t recommend this work because it is a work of scholarly research to attempt to resolve the confusion of the book by assuming it is mistranslated.”
Clearly she has a problem here, failing to note that the passages she dislikes by Lexenburg were written in Old Syriac not Arabic and fails to make the distinction relying on Warraq’s Arabic instead. Also not mentioned is the koran is a complied document from scrolls, tapestries, and wall paintings some 200 years after Mohammad. Naturally there is confusion as Old Syriac is very similar to Arabic but as different as modern English is from Old English (Old: swá gebléod = Modern: as different).
Thanks for his very helpful explanation of the systematic eradication of non-Islamic civilizations and their cultural artifacts, by Islam. I’m bookmarking it.
Bookmark this instead as required viewing:
Why We Are Afraid, A 1400 Year Secret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
Do you have a reference for classical civilization having telescopes?
Who cares?
They ALL want to chop my head off, and that’s enough for me.
Lock and load, boys and girls.
Yes but it is obscure: there is a Roman legion in Libya which keeps watch on an island several hundred miles away by means of a devise mounted on top of a tower. There are numerous other examples the nature of which I do not recall at present.
Even before the Old Kingdom times, various peoples were familiar with stars which cannot be resolved with the naked eye.
There are also several hints that some sort of telescope was use in survey during the Old Egyptian Kingdom. Lenses were common even then, usually for a sort of pince-nez with a lens a diopter ground lens inserted for nearsightedness or farsightedness. They are found today in many museums, usually in the jewelry sections.
Sorry but I do not have the exact reference handy, but it is also found in the Crystal Sun by Robert Temple.
Methinks either you or the Romans were confused. If I’m on top of a 2000 foot tower, which I assume you will agree were scarce in Roman times, the distance to the visible horizon is a little over 50 miles.
I would not be a bit surprised if Egyptian priests developed secrets such as this. One of the amazing things about the development of modern science is that people got credit not for keeping secrets but for publishing them.
So it’s entirely possible telescopes and similar stuff was invented multiple times, but never spread because the inventors kept it to themselves and their heirs, leading to obvious likely eventual loss.
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