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Pluto’s Time to Shine Just Hours Away – A Guide and Timetable
universetoday.com ^ | on July 12, 2015 | Bob King

Posted on 07/12/2015 8:05:51 PM PDT by BenLurkin

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To: SunkenCiv; jonatron; LibWhacker
Yeah, probably the α/β/θ centaurid meteor showers, which appear to originate in that constellation. Chiron was the greatest of the centaurs, the son of a Titan and a sea nymph [How the genome of that pairing produces a half-man/half-horse is a matter of some curiosity to me...]

Charon was the ferryman of Hades in Greek mythology, so his association with Pluton [a euphemism the Greeks used for Hades similar to the way we used to use "Heck" for "Hell."] The Romans just stole the name, although they used "Pluto." IIRC, Charon has the same name in Roman as in Greek mythology.

Anyway, the similarity in names in English is misleading. In Greek, Charon starts with a κ, and is pronounced pretty much like "Karen" or "Karon." Chiron starts with a χ. χ is a "trilled K," not a hard K, and is done farther back in the throat, it's like a cross between the ch in church and a k.

I doubt all astrologers actually confuse the two. No doubt some do.

Still complete bollocks.

21 posted on 07/12/2015 10:59:32 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, which is bigger, Pluto or Goofy?)
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To: FredZarguna
Still complete bollocks.

Yep. I think it's pretty appalling so many people still give astrology so much weight, which proves the inadequacy of our educational system. I mean, the history of science, conceptual physics, etc., are fascinating subjects, require little or no math, and could be taught at the elementary level. There is no reason any student entering middle school should believe in astrology or any of the other pseudo-scientific shams floating around out there!

22 posted on 07/12/2015 11:36:50 PM PDT by LibWhacker ("Because once you pee on someone's face, you HAVE to shoot him.")
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To: LibWhacker
A question my introductory astronomy professor [who, quite understandably, had a blinding white hatred of astrology] asked back in 1970 on our first exam was: Given that Jupiter has a mass of 317 Earth masses, and that a fat obstetrician has a mass of 150 kg [which is 2.5x10-23 Earth masses] and that Jupiter is 4.2 astronomical units from earth, while 1 meter is 6.7x10-12 a.u., how close does the obstetrician need to stand to the birth canal in order to have a larger gravitational influence than the planet Jupiter at the instant of your birth?

The answer is that if [s]he's about half a foot away, the gravitational force he exerts is about the same as the largest planet in the solar system. That's the best case. Jupiter could actually be as far away as ~7 a.u. from earth at the instant you're born, in which case the obstetrician can be in the room next door and pull more g's your way.

You could probably not ask that question any more, what with "products of conception," how they get in there, and where they come out and what-not.

23 posted on 07/13/2015 12:38:08 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, which is bigger, Pluto or Goofy?)
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To: FredZarguna

I was going to respond to your post but after consulting my star charts.../s

Having worked in the medical field for ever, the effect of the lunar phase is remarkable. I wonder just how fat your obstetrician would have to be to compare?

Lastly, if you have ever seen the birth of a big headed baby who is sorta stuck in the birth canal and the suction cup they use to pull on their noggins...

Well, this has nothing to do with the original post so, g’night.


24 posted on 07/13/2015 2:20:52 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: FredZarguna

My first physics professor (and probably every physics and astronomy professor I had after that) made exactly the same point: The burden of proof is on the astrologer to identify the mysterious agency (or force) the stars supposedly exert on us at birth to guide our lives. It’s not gravity. After thousands of years claiming such a force exists, astrologers are no closer to identifying it, characterizing it, or even doing simple experiments on it to learn what characteristics it does have. They’re not even trying. They want us to believe astrology is a science, but that you can’t do experiments in it because it’s outside the realm of science, lol. Astrology is pure bunk, pure crapola, and people should stop reading astrology books and the astrology section of the newspaper and put the charlatans out of business.


25 posted on 07/13/2015 2:29:00 AM PDT by LibWhacker ("Because once you pee on someone's face, you HAVE to shoot him.")
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks


26 posted on 07/13/2015 2:37:29 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: LibWhacker

I read ‘em and laugh.


27 posted on 07/13/2015 5:13:29 AM PDT by TheOldLady (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8 - Look it up. I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him.)
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To: LibWhacker

...Te burden of proof is on the astrologer to identify the mysterious agency (or force) the stars supposedly exert on us at birth to guide our lives...

Why, its the stars themselves, of course.


28 posted on 07/13/2015 5:51:28 AM PDT by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: Empireoftheatom48

You might know the answer to this:
Isn’t the symbol for Pluto the initials of Perceval Lowell?


29 posted on 07/13/2015 6:00:05 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (We're gonna need more Benjamin Martins to hold off the Col. Tavingtons o'er the hill.)
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To: FredZarguna

Thanks Fred!


30 posted on 07/13/2015 8:32:40 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: outofsalt
The jury is really still out on whether or not there is a lunar effect. No sooner does a study come out purporting to "prove" it, than a conflicting study reveals it isn't there.

Most serious researchers concede that the effect, if it exists, is very small and attribute the absolute surety of law enforcement, EMS and healthcare workers to selection bias. ["Why does my toast always seem to land buttered side down?" The answer is, it doesn't. We're just more likely to notice when it happens. "Then why does the clock seem to show 11:11 and 12:34 more often?" Clearly, this can't be true...]

"A meta-analysis of thirty-seven studies that examined relationships between the moon's four phases and human behavior revealed no significant correlation. The authors found that, of twenty-three studies that had claimed to show correlation, nearly half contained at least one statistical error.Similarly, in a review of twenty studies examining correlations between Moon phase and suicides, most of the twenty studies found no correlation, and the ones that did report positive results were inconsistent with each other."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_effect

The suction cup was used on one of my sons' heads almost 30 years ago to this day. seeing his wildly extruded head and body, I was sure he would not survive. Seems fine, and about to get his PhD. So on the basis of a statistic with a sample variance of ∞ maybe that thing needs to be used on more kids...

31 posted on 07/13/2015 10:24:50 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, which is bigger, Pluto or Goofy?)
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To: Sasparilla; LibWhacker
Why, its the stars themselves, of course.

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

-- William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar [I.ii, 140-141]

32 posted on 07/13/2015 10:30:48 AM PDT by FredZarguna (Now, which is bigger, Pluto or Goofy?)
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To: FredZarguna

Come to think of it, my middle child was suctioned from his mother and he is getting straight A’s so you might be on to something. Freegards!


33 posted on 07/13/2015 11:38:32 AM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Sasparilla
A nice tribute to Clyde Tombaugh, discoverer of Pluto in 1903.

That should read "1930."

34 posted on 07/13/2015 5:05:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Sasparilla
A nice tribute to Clyde Tombaugh, discoverer of Pluto in 1903.

That should read "1930."

35 posted on 07/13/2015 5:05:42 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: LibWhacker

You must be an Aries or maybe a Virgo?


36 posted on 07/13/2015 7:15:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

LOL!


37 posted on 07/13/2015 7:34:08 PM PDT by LibWhacker ("Because once you pee on someone's face, you HAVE to shoot him.")
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To: LibWhacker

;-]


38 posted on 07/13/2015 7:34:45 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: RandallFlagg

A 12 year old girl chose the name, and since it had a those initials, it was one of the reasons why it was chosen!


39 posted on 07/13/2015 10:23:42 PM PDT by Empireoftheatom48 (God help the Republic but will he?)
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