[Bubba Ho-Tep]

"Might makes right" is the only conclusion which can be drawn from the activities of people who use their superior might to stop the independence of others.

So any group of people, for any reason, can declare their independence and claim whatever land they wish, correct?

[rockrr]

Don’t forget, “at any time” LOL

[DiogenesLamp]

So any group of people, for any reason, can declare their independence and claim whatever land they wish, correct?

Not according to natural law, but certainly according to "Union law", if they have the raw power necessary to bludgeon the rights of others.

[central_va]

Bubba we have been over this many times. Constitutionally the state is an entity defined in the Constitution. It is the next logical political unit. You are espousing anarchy which would be well down the totem pile in a societal collapse scenario.

Secession by a state is logical and can be voted on by the people as the levers of government are already in place. What you are doing it the typical liberal tactic of debasing everything to win your argument. The "tear it all down man" , doesn't work.

"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."

-- Jefferson Davis