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To: wagglebee
So, they seceded because of Lincoln but believe that the North would preserve slavery?

What they believed is irrelevant to what the Union did or what motivated them to do it.

Do not forget the Union sent 35,000 men with guns and cannons to take over Richmond. Their reasons for doing this had nothing to do with slavery. Stop trying to pull a bait and switch.

ONE THIRD of the people living in the South were enslaved, what about THEIR independence?

What a coincidence that concern for their independence just happened to pop up two years after the War started!

This is not to say the issue doesn't have merit, but don't you think the timing is suspicious? After all, I don't recall reading any noises from the period proclaiming the Union's intention of abolishing slavery prior to the war.

No, those only seem to crop after they needed to explain and justify the carnage. People who did not give a rip about the plight of slaves prior to the war, and who did not give a rip about them immediately after the war, were suddenly moralizing all about them during the war, and in the decades thereafter.

It's almost enough to make you cynical.

I will admit that a great many southerners are very passionate about the Confederacy, and it is normal to focus on whatever noble facets of it are available, but NONE of you have offered any real evidence to show that the Civil War wasn't about slavery.

Still pretending to be stupid. Okay, let's make this simple. What were the orders given to Brig. Gen. Irvin McDowell when Lincoln sent his 35,000 man invasion force to take Richmond.

If you can come up with anything that says "to end slavery" on it, then i'll eat a copy of the Declaration of Independence.

If you cannot come up with anything that says his orders were to "end slavery" then You need to shut the f*** up about the issue of slavery as regards the Union intentions for fighting the civil war.

An honest man would stop lying to himself and stop trying to lie to others. The Union had no intention of abolishing slavery, their sole purpose was "Preserving the Union", and a D@mn I do not give about what the Southern States reasons were for doing anything, they weren't the ones invading, they were the ones defending, so they don't have to have explanations for why they were fighting.

The People who need to explain why they were fighting were the aggressors not the defenders.

That be you. So how about it? Why did the Union Invade? Why? Why? Why? Why?

293 posted on 07/06/2015 12:55:54 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

Abortion destroys every single clause of the stated purposes of the Constitution, as well as violating the explicit, imperative equal protection requirements in more than one Amendment.

Ask yourself, would the sixty million or more innocent little children who have been slaughtered in the last four decades have lived to enjoy the Blessings of Liberty if the Supreme Court had given due regard to the stated purposes of the supreme law of the land which they swore to support and defend?

“Gay marriage” makes the fulfillment of the stated purposes of the Constitution impossible as well. Do you think perhaps this lawless court should have considered that?


304 posted on 07/06/2015 1:10:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I understand the temptation to defeatism, but that doesn't mean I approve of it.)
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