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To: ek_hornbeck
And what of DiogenesLamp's other point: when Islamists commit acts of terror against the US and other Western nations, they often use our perceived moral decadence, blasphemy, and wickedness as an excuse. How is this any different from saying that a bloody civil war is justified on account of the "wickedness" of slavery?

Exactly. They keep trying to use modern sentiments about slavery to opine on how wicked were the people who supported it, completely ignoring the fact that it was not so very much earlier that all the states supported it, while five Union states of the time still did.

"Slavery" was another example of North Eastern Socialites finding a new "morality" and deciding everyone else should be made to feel exactly as they do regarding the issue.

Nowadays it is "Gay" marriage, "Global Warming" and "Equality for Transgenders", but in 1860, the latest moral urgency was the abolition of slavery, especially since slavery was no longer useful to the financial interests of those social circles.

Lincoln was not really joking when he told Harriet Beecher Stowe "So, you're the little lady who started this war."

Nowadays, people constantly use extemporaneous moral judgements to malign people who lived in a different time. They look at events through an anachronistic prism and in complete ignorance of the zeitgeist of that era.

They lack objectivity. They don't even understand the concept as it would apply to the civil war.

242 posted on 07/06/2015 10:43:15 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp; Responsibility2nd; DJ MacWoW; little jeremiah; Coleus; narses; TheOldLady; xzins; ...
"Slavery" was another example of North Eastern Socialites finding a new "morality" and deciding everyone else should be made to feel exactly as they do regarding the issue.

Nowadays it is "Gay" marriage, "Global Warming" and "Equality for Transgenders", but in 1860, the latest moral urgency was the abolition of slavery, especially since slavery was no longer useful to the financial interests of those social circles.

So, you are equating the abolitionist movement with the homonazis?

It's one thing to argue that the Confederacy wasn't about slavery, but it's quite another to dismiss the abolitionist movement as some sort of social experiment.

Nowadays, people constantly use extemporaneous moral judgements to malign people who lived in a different time. They look at events through an anachronistic prism and in complete ignorance of the zeitgeist of that era.

No, the Founding Fathers were well aware that slavery was immoral, they just couldn't figure out how to deal with it.

248 posted on 07/06/2015 11:02:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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