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To: ek_hornbeck; DiogenesLamp; EternalVigilance; xzins; P-Marlowe; trisham; stephenjohnbanker
Do you think that slavery is sufficiently wicked that its elimination justifies 600K of your countrymen dead and half of your nation in ruins? If it were extant today, would you be willing to sacrifice your life or that of your sons/brothers to put an end to it?

Yes, I believe that freedom is worthy dying for.

And what of DiogenesLamp's other point: when Islamists commit acts of terror against the US and other Western nations, they often use our perceived moral decadence, blasphemy, and wickedness as an excuse. How is this any different from saying that a bloody civil war is justified on account of the "wickedness" of slavery?

Islamofascists "perceive" us to be wicked or immoral, slavery IS wicked and immoral.

Unless we can agree that slavery was inherently evil and morally indefensible, there really is nothing further to discuss.

230 posted on 07/06/2015 9:44:47 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Unless we can agree that slavery was inherently evil and morally indefensible, there really is nothing further to discuss.

If you believe that your pet moralizing hobbyhorses justify the deaths of 600K of your countrymen (the equivalent of 6 million today if you account for US population size) and the economic ruin of half of our nation, we have nothing to talk about.

231 posted on 07/06/2015 9:49:19 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: wagglebee
Yes, I believe that freedom is worthy dying for.

No you don't, else you'd be in the middle east fighting against slavery which is currently going on there. You believe it is worth 600,000 OTHER people dying for.

I also note the vast bulk of the slave trade was with Brazil, yet I hear of no great moral imperative for invading Brazil, or even the close by Caribbean islands to free the slaves.

I would think if the cause is so great and noble to devastate your own country, and kill 600,000 of your own people, that at least a little effort could have been expended eradicating the abomination in your nearby neighbors?

Why it's almost as if they didn't really give a rat's @ss about slavery, and were more interested in forcing submission to Washington D.C. or something.

So how about it anti-slavery crusaders? Why no action on Brazil or the Caribbean Islands?

247 posted on 07/06/2015 10:58:52 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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