[Darren McCarty]

I go there because abortion is legalized murder for convenience . The reasons are often to avoid financial issues, pressure from others, and to avoid embarrassment and shame from others. Comments in this thread make it easier for those on the fence to choose legalized murder, which is much more destructive than an unplanned pregnancy.

[Vermont Lt]

I am not a pro-choice fool.

I’ve told my girls that I would help them if they got into trouble, but I would not raise their children for them. And I would not support an action financially.

I also helped them get educated about birth control and why they MUST be careful. It is not a decision (to have sex with someone) to be taken lightly.

We (my wife and I) did not miss an opportunity to have real life conversations about teen pregnancy and the impact on the rest of your life. Every chance we got to discuss how their friends were dealing with their “sexual” lives to point out how they were not prepared to take those steps.

Now, I am no prude. I am also not naive.

But my oldest daughter just got engaged to a great guy. They still sleep in different beds (him on the couch.) My youngest’s boyfriend and him make jokes about being roommates when they visit.

Did my kids have premarital sex? I am sure they did/ But they both managed their libidos and their lust to get into the mid twenties without having babies.

So, my point is that when a woman makes a mistake, I can understand it. When a woman makes two such mistakes, there is really no excuse. The children are without a father married to their mother. That used to be a shameful thing.

One of the problems these days is that we do not shame people enough. We do not teach our kids because we don’t want to battle their peers. We do not take the opportunity to coach our children when we have the opportunity.