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Posted on 06/17/2015 2:27:35 PM PDT by Marcus
Edited on 06/17/2015 11:33:18 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Updated: Added unedited and actual excerpt of the Examiner article.
According to a Tuesday article in the Moscow Times, a spokesman for Russia’s Investigative Committee named Vladimir Markin suggested that an international investigation be mounted into some of the “various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972.”
Markin would particularly like to know some of the missing moon rocks went to and why the original footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was erased.
Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio...
Article continues here: http://www.examiner.com/article/russian-official-calls-for-international-investigation-of-the-apollo-program
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A spokesman for Russia’s Investigative Committee named Vladimir Markin suggested that an international investigation be mounted into some of the “various murky details surrounding the U.S. moon landings between 1969 and 1972.” Markin would particularly like to know some of the missing moon rocks went to and why the original footage of the Apollo 11 moon landing was erased. Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio
Already been done, according to conspiracy theorists. Google secret Apollo 20 mission. Several secret missions done, in conjunction with the Soviets, to investigate alien artifacts on the Moon. Crashed spacecraft, Moon bases and dish antennas explored.
Top people, dang it. TOP people...
Of course he isn't.
... that same government shredded and destroyed the blueprints for the Saturn 5 rocket motors, right? And destroyed all the toolings for making them? And that’s why they weren’t available for the space shuttle, or for now?You didn’t know that...
And, all the engineers who designed and built the Saturn 5 rocket are in their mid to late 80’s or dead. A relative who worked on the team that designed the Saturn 5 steering would be 86 if he were still alive.
How about THOUSANDS of people keeping it all a secret?
This is putin trying to create and issue.
Such as "...only two modes of heat transfer are possible: radiant transfer from the inner surface of the magazine to the film itself (the amount of which would be small in this scenario), and conductive transfer from the magazine case through the winding mechanism to the film itself. This is a very limited path of conduction.
But see, "limited" is a variable defined by application - in this case, the actual amount of heat actually transferred under the extremes of lunar temperatures, and the delicacy of the film substrate and emulsion. For example, I could heat up a pin to lunar temps - even far less then lunar temps - and wreck any film I rolled around it. So it's a matter of how hot, for how long - not a mere claim that the conduction path is "limited."
Yet all anyone would have to do is get one of the lunar cameras, put it in a heated/chilled vacuum environmental chamber, and see what happens. Yet no one will do this. Hell, Hassleblad and NASA should have done it to test the cameras - and you can't tell me they didn't. The specs for government work are ridiculous anyway, and you're not going to send people all the way to the moon to check if your theories about the cameras work. So they WERE tested - so, show the test results, and let people duplicate them, and put this issue to rest.
But no dice.
Again, for example, the other link you gave says, "Conventional lubricants had to be eliminated as they would boil off in the vacuum of space. " Great, fine... WHAT lubricants? I'm sure something can be said about them. Were they dry? How did they keep them in place then. Were they wet? How did they keep them from boiling off, then? And notice, the temperatures were so high and vacuum so low that they would boil camera lubricants. So then claiming there was no effect on the film or its emulsion simply doesn't follow. And if technical developments defeated these problems, why not say what those developments were? Industry especially could make use of them.
But no dice.
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Truly not a problem.
1. Compartmentalization means most don't know. All they know abut is the part they worked on. Then they'd get the final motion picture show everyone else gets.
2. Where it's actually necessary to let people know, you have three immediately applicable levels of insurance.
The first is loyalty pre-screening to the level of a general top-secret clearance.
The second is simply a threat. On the mild side, the threat could be loss of pension, medical care, salary, employment. After that, well, how high do you want to go? Everyone has families and wants to stay alive and not be considered crazy. Bummer if anything happened to those things.
Third, though, is to have a good cover story. What if the whole fraud was explained as the cover for something else, something really dangerous in some way that threatened America? What if the moon landing fraud was explained as a way to deal with this other thing, this other issue, while saving millions of American lives. What then? People would shut up on their own, that's what - and be proud to do so. What kind of cover story? LOL, anything! Aliens, top secret technology development that has to be done openly, psyops in the cold war, distraction from Viet Nam. There are entire divisions of intelligence agencies that do nothing but come up with cover stories. Simply not a problem. And if it was something real (because the best lie is a misapplied truth), then other countries would go along with it for their own best interests as well.
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>> “Where do they get that?” <<
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Out of their rectal orifices.
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We do know for sure that the retro prisms are up there, because anyone can bounce a signal off of them. Lots of amateur astronomers do exactly that all the time.
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I'm all for going and checking, though more than a good telescope is needed - that photo you posted was actually from a moon orbiter. And I'm not a bleiever in those "tracks," because... sceptic and stuff, right? Though I will note that they've always somehow had an excuse for not pointing Hubble at the moon.
Personally, I think we DID go to the moon, and got photos and instrument readings, etc. I just no longer think we sent PEOPLE to the moon - I think it was remote equipment. I think the Van Allen radiation belts simply were not crossable with the technology we had, or even still have, and I also think the radiation of open space and on the lunar surface were prohibitive as well.
I also think there's some sort of problem with the moon "they" aren't talking about. All this talk about Mars is ridiculous. If the moon is unapproachable, so is Mars. Otherwise, let's just send unmanned diggers to the moon, let them dig, and send shielded landing capsules with people in them to live under the surface. It's a problem, but it's not magic - it's a scientific and engineering problem I simply do not believe that we can't somehow triumph over.
Yet here we are, fifty years later, farting around in low Earth orbit while relying on the Russians - the RUSSIANS - for our access to the ISS!
It's humiliating and it pisses me off. The moon is RIGHT THERE, dammit!
Well, you are off on another tangent, this time the great moon conspiracy.
Must have drank some baddd vodka.
Your room is ready.
Yeah your right. After all, the actual article of this actual thread clearly says "Markin hastened to add that he is, of course, not suggesting that NASA faked the moon landings and just filmed the events in a studio."
So that's that.
Took you almost five minutes.
You’d better be a bit quicker next time, otherwise you’ll be replaced by someone more dedicated to The Cause.
The conspiracy theory has been debunked. I should have mentioned that...
The blueprints may have been lost. But components remained after cancellation, including stages of the Saturn 5 rockets. Some are on display at three American space centers: the John F. Kennedy Space Center near Cape Canaveral, Florida; the Johnson Space Center in Houston, Texas and the United States Space & Rocket Center in Huntsville, Alabama. Not everything was "destroyed".
Post 35 does you justice.
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