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To: sasportas
I'm a Postmillennialist (as were the early Methodists, historically--see Vic Reasoner's The Hope of the Gospel). Are you sure Steele was boosting Amillenialism? In his introduction, it sounds like he's saying the options are postmillennialism and premillennial dispensationalism, to me:
There are two theories of Christian eschatology. The first is that the present dispensation of the Holy Spirit will continue till all nations shall be evangelized, "the fullness of the Gentiles be come in," drowning out the unbelief of the Jews till "all Israel shall be saved." After this period of gospel triumph Christ will wind up the probationary history of the human race by the simultaneous resurrection of the good and the bad and the general judgment, assigning them to their eternal destinies.

Then again, amillennialism and postmillennialism have always sounded similar to me--much more similar to one another than to the premillennial positions, certainly.

Also, the Early Church Fathers covers from Clement of Rome and Justin Martyr all the way to Gregory the Great in the late 500s/early 600s. They were not "to a man" premillennialist (of any variety)--for example, Origen and Augustine of Hippo, who were amillennialists--although many of the earliest of them were.

83 posted on 06/13/2015 11:31:14 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: The Grammarian

You are right, Steele must have been postmillennialist. I didn’t read your link close enough.

When I said ECF, I meant the Ante-Nicene Fathers. I have the full set, which I have had for about 30 years. The Origen-Augustine apostasy had fully set in by the 500’s and 600’s you speak of, concluding with the Papacy. I consider their system, including their millennial doctrine, false. Yours, and Steele’s, eschatology a derivation of theirs.

The ECF I speak of were indeed to a man premillennialist. Their eschatology preceded that of Augustine and the Papacy. The ECF I speak of, being closer to what was handed down from the apostles, we would expect more closely to reflect the true eschatology. Known today as Historic Premillennialism. Which, as I pointed out in my previous post, was not dispensational nor pretrib.


84 posted on 06/13/2015 11:58:12 AM PDT by sasportas
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