[Hawthorn]

>> Charlemagne, at least, earned his throne at the Battle of Pointers <<

I think it actually was his father, Charles Martel, who won at Poitiers.

[Verginius Rufus]

Charles Martel was Charlemagne’s grandfather. Charlemagne’s father was Pippin/Pepin the Short, the first of the family to have the title of king rather than mayor of the palace.

[MattinNJ]

Charles Magne was his grandfather

[MattinNJ]

Ugghh. Charles Martel- or Charles the Hammer- was his grandfather