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GLOBAL WARMING? THE POPE IS WRONG
The Heartland Institute ^ | April 27,205 | ALAN CARUBA

Posted on 05/24/2015 6:54:39 PM PDT by Dqban22

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To: Forward the Light Brigade
I put no credence whatsoever in Malachy. I don't even think the real Malachy (Maelmhaedhoc of Armagh)--- a great 12th century abbot and monastic reformer --- Was the author. (Most literary sleuths date the prophecies from the 17th century, not the 12th).

And all his "prophecies" are --- typical of fraudulent oracles --- so obscure, that they can be "made to fit" only in hindsight, when you take a handful of known facts, some of them quite trivial, and try to shoehorn them retrospectively into the oracular framework.

The stuff I've read about Pope Benedict XVI being "Gloria olivae" is just snortingly dubious. Strictly in the tea-leaves and chicken-entrails league.

41 posted on 05/25/2015 6:28:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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Here is one link that supports my statement, “The Pope believes that when man returns to that natural harmony with nature, he becomes as a god to control nature.”:

http://equippingteachers.com/problems-with-a-utopia/

The above link says that radical environmentalism rejects God the creator and replaces god with nature:

“The key to understanding modern environmentalism is that men seek to control every aspect of life for every other man in order that the earth may flourish. Note that it is the earth flourishing, not man. Men in general become a nuisance and thus expendable. Any future plans for earth in the environmentalist mindset necessitates a vastly reduced human population and thus betrays the real nature of the ideology. Radical environmentalism worships the earth.”

Since the natural world is the godhood, when man is in harmony with the natural world, he reaches that perfection of the godhood and is god. This is their Utopian goal.

and, the below link suggests that:

http://letusreason.org/Nam42.htm

See this quote from the above link: “He [Al Gore] speaks of “Our religious heritage is based on a single earth goddess who is assumed to be the foundation of all life…all men have a god within. Each man has a god within because creation is God.” “ ...it may now be necessary to foster a new “environmentalism of the spirit” (p. 242). The ‘spirit’ Gore is referring to is the one he says is within man and the earth which certainly makes this a new religious category.”


42 posted on 05/26/2015 3:11:23 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental deficiency: A totalitarian mindset..)
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The question was not "Do radical secular environmentalists believe that when man returns to that natural harmony with nature, he becomes as a god to control nature?"

The question was "Does Pope Francis believe that?" The answer is: no.

43 posted on 05/26/2015 6:40:15 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Ninety percent of all mental errors are in your head." - Yogi Berra)
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To: Dqban22

There’s a problem with the Pope’s reasoning: The droughts, the famines, and the plagues ARE INEVITABLE. Building faith so that miracles and saved souls can happen when the inevitable occurs is the important process right now. Conservation, is second or third.


44 posted on 05/26/2015 3:44:21 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis chooses to fly with the worshipers of Gaia and I perceive him as one of them. For months, Francis has been drafting an encyclical on the environment and global warming which he hopes to release by June or July. Investor’s Business Daily, Forbes and TownHall.com are writing about the pope of adopting a radical environmental agenda. I will await this official document to see if I am. as well as other conservatives, are correct.


45 posted on 05/26/2015 7:27:34 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental deficiency: A totalitarian mindset..)
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Since nobody has seen this confounded encyclical as yet, I suppose I can speculate as much as anybody, and with equal chance of being proven a fool when the text is finally released in English. So here goes.

Pope Francis is no devotee of Gaia.

I think he's going to critique some of the main errors of radical environmentalism. He's going to defend the exceptionalism of our species; he's going to say environmentalism has to exist at the service of human beings, that while we are respectful of snail darters, we are more important than snail darters, just as Jesus said "The Father cares for sparrows, but you are worth more than many sparrows."

I think he's going to oppose the population-controllers, the people who just see each new baby as a CO2-producing unit. He's going to reiterate that the fertility-haters are in error: abortion is wrong, contraception is wrong (yes, he'll "go there.")

He's going to affirm the God-designed goodness of natural sex, natural gender, natural marriage and the natural family. The people who are into promoting sterile sex in all its forms are going to find no comfort here.

I predict Jeffrey Sachs and Ki Ban-Moon are going to get heartburn over how to suppress the parts they don't like.

Like everybody, I do have fears. I fear he's going to say some stupid stuff about "climate change," and an enlarged role for both national governments and international regulation (the real political danger of this encyclical)--- but the encyclical will not center on that. I hope that Francis will not uncritically trumpet the Al Gorrible stuff, but will maximize the more broadly Biblical themes: our duty to care for the Garden and exercise godly dominion over the planet, invoking God's help to safeguard the goodness of Creation for future generations.

This article by Robert Royal sums up a lot of what I'm thinking in this regard.

46 posted on 05/26/2015 8:29:55 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (They are like a tree planted beside the waters, that stretches out its roots to the stream.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I hope you are right.


47 posted on 05/27/2015 12:42:46 AM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental deficiency: A totalitarian mindset..)
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