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Tom Brady will be suspended by Goodell for role in DeflateGate, announcement next week
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS ^ | 5-8-2015 | Gary Myers

Posted on 05/08/2015 3:06:44 PM PDT by servo1969

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To: Kazan

You keep mentioning Hillary.

Are you as obsessed with her as your are with Tom Brady?

Psst... you should seek professional help, you need it.


341 posted on 05/09/2015 6:03:40 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: Kazan

“Only someone with the IQ of turnip would claim someone withholding evidence isn’t hiding something incriminating. It’s not rational claim.”

Prove it.

But don’t bother proving it to me, because I don’t care.

You will have to stalk Tom Brady’s balls without me.


342 posted on 05/09/2015 6:05:49 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: FredZarguna

The ball has a regulation pressure because sometime prior to 1940 Wilson, the manufacturer, recommended the football be kept at that pressure, and no one bothered to look at it again. Any game played below the mid 50s or above the mid 90s uses out of spec balls if they started in spec.

The report concluded that temperature change alone would account for approximately 1.2PSI change...as many people calculated from the gas laws.

The report made contradictory statements on the effect of the balls getting an undefined amount of wet...up to another .3PSI, depending on which experimental result you pick,
plus a variance between gauges used of about .2 to .4,
plus an individual gauge variance of about .15 PSI,
plus a loss of about .03 PSI from the three measurements.
Plus the effects of the Pats balls being checked first, and the Colts balls just before they ran out for the second half, and the experimentally derived warming curves over time - that last also meaning that the Patriots tests of the effects of rubbing were likely about .7PSI, but not likely relevant at measurement time because of the fairly rapid cool down time.

The report discussed how strongly the gauges changed accuracy based on temperature difference, but I didn’t see where they checked warming from being held for a prolonged period. They only calculated the difference in the ambient temperature of the room, and dismissed that as trivial.

The Colts played with balls that were out of spec as well, according to data from the report.

The officials pumped up the balls at half-time, including pumping up at least one ball for play above the maximum limit, and all of them above what the Colts balls were reported as starting at, and fairly inconsistently.

The report actually concedes that with the information available to them it is possible for the pressure changes to be natural, but describes the scenario as unlikely. It also does some good stuff and some funny stuff with statistics and the limitations of significance with only having 4 Colts balls measured.


343 posted on 05/09/2015 6:06:26 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: GrootheWanderer

There was no evidence presented that Brady told the guys to deflate the balls below legal limits. The texts cited are from a game against the Jets in October where Brady was upset at how overinflated the game balls were, which it appears the balls were pumped up by the ref to nearly 16 PSI. He’d apparently laid into the refs ans equipment staff at the game. According to Brady, after that game he had someone find out what the rules say and began supplying the refs a copy so they’d know they didn’t have to pump up balls which were at 12.5 PSI further.

I mostly skipped to the experimential part of the report, but it seems those texts were all from about a week-long period in October following that game, and re-purposes by the investigators to project a pattern. You’ll have to decide whether that’s legitimate.


344 posted on 05/09/2015 6:17:18 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: doorgunner69

For what it’s worth, the report explicitly exonerates Bellichick and the rest of the coaching staff.


345 posted on 05/09/2015 6:20:19 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: 9422WMR

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2015/05/09/manning-kaepernick-on-deflategate/

Gaylord Perry threw the spitter his entire career and is in the HOF. Jerry Rice recently admitted to having tar on his fingers in most of his games. Also in the HOF. I could go on and on and on.

This nonsense about Brady “cheating” is pathetic. It’s kept alive by Patriot haters and the worthless Goodell.

4 of the 12 balls used by the Colts during the game were also deflated. Will their hotshot quarterback be suspended with Brady?

Patriots could have been playing with basketballs and the result would have been the same.


346 posted on 05/09/2015 6:32:02 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: bjorn14

There is a definition of a football, of 12.5 to 13.5 PSI.

The balls change by just over .5 PSI per 10 degrees F temperature change.

Many (if not most, no one has measrured balls at halftime before) NFL football games are played with balls that are outside of those specs. Aaron Rogers had commented before this that he tries to get balls which are technically overinflated into games, and implies he succeeds. He also implies that there are refs that will inflate footballs to the overinflated PSIs he likes.

In any case, the stated argument in the report is that temperature alone dropped PSI by 1.2 PSI, somewhere between zero and about .3 From the balls getting wet, and another few tenths from gauge issues...and after going through all of that..for both teams, some of the Pats balls were another few tenths from what they consider the most likely pressure they should have been if unaltered - while acknowledging that the balls were within the possible range.

In short, after identified natural and measurement variances, they are arguing about .2-.4 PSI against rather larger natural effects. Though they separate the pieces in the text.


347 posted on 05/09/2015 6:34:28 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: FredZarguna

Aaron Rodgers recently said he likes his balls at 16 psi. Said he always has a few of the balls real hard and just hopes the refs don’t pick those to be “inspected”. So when will Rodgers be getting his suspension.


348 posted on 05/09/2015 6:35:19 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Norm Lenhart

Brady is a conservative, devout Christian, and does not kiss the rear of King Obama. Therefore QUILTY AS CHARGED!


349 posted on 05/09/2015 6:38:08 PM PDT by NKP_Vet (Q)
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To: 9YearLurker

Are you aware of the actual context of the texts?


350 posted on 05/09/2015 6:39:22 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: NKP_Vet

Yup. Stevie Wonder could see payback coming. Brady likely knew this and that just added to why he refused to take center ring in the circus.


351 posted on 05/09/2015 6:40:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: FredZarguna

Weighted? You clearly don’t understand the kerfuffle. The balls do not weigh 12.5 pounds....none of them...even close.


352 posted on 05/09/2015 6:41:20 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: chris37

The texts indicate the balls were deflated from an illegal 16 PSI...which is what the texts say the refs pumped them up to for a game against the Jets.


353 posted on 05/09/2015 6:43:54 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: dp0622

The texts are very damning...if you remove context as the report does at times.


354 posted on 05/09/2015 6:44:45 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: FredZarguna

11 of 12 Pats footballs were 2 pounds out of specs? Not according to the report. Not even if you correct the units. That was just a rumor.


355 posted on 05/09/2015 6:47:34 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

I actually read more...sounds like Brady wanted them to tweak the balls, but not break the rules...dicey area.


356 posted on 05/09/2015 6:50:47 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: lepton

and the guy who cursed Brady is done lol


357 posted on 05/09/2015 6:51:17 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: chris37

He’s telling you that He has no idea what the argument is about, but if you don’t understand his misunderstanding you have an IQ under 50.


358 posted on 05/09/2015 6:51:48 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: CedarDave

It’s illegal to text or call the sideline from any place that might have access to outside sources like television when they show close ups of playcall sheets, or talk about trick plays the broadcasters were allowed to see before the game, or tells the commentators noticed. If he was in the coaches box, it wouldn’t have been a problem as that is a controlled environment.


359 posted on 05/09/2015 6:55:43 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: FredZarguna

Hey. :)

According to the report you got the first four hillariously wrong.

The last would be a matter of opinion.

Please actually read the report before having a forceful opinion on it. Sure it’s got some incongruities, and some logic stretches, but then at least there’d be a conversation to be had.


360 posted on 05/09/2015 7:00:22 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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