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To: DesertRhino

Even if one construes the Barbary pirates as a mercantile threat, this remains a premise of supposed neoconservative thought.

This week Iran shot across the bow of a US flagged vessel. China would be happy to curtail global trade in their exclusive favor.

Russia seeks to militarily improve its trade positions.

North Korea ships missiles that are quite dangerous and even helps nations build nuclear weapons systems.

It is difficult to imagine how the present world would sit passively by while the post neo conservative elite governed America.

There was a tremendous amount of US military aggression from the inception of the nation. I think this thread has demonstrated that. The war of 1812 while an attack on us betrays the painful reality of how the world never leaves any nation alone.

the United States is doomed to transform the world into its own image. Many faux conservatives bemoan this but there is no magic anonymity to be had with such a vast array of truly despicable global powers.

Prior to 911, the Chinese militarily took down a US military aircraft into their own territory. That was hugely aggressive.

The world simply will not conform to the false dogma of isolationism/pacifism/ inaction that the critics of neo conservatism extol. It is only a matter of time until major terror attacks on the US convince the nation to again take up the mantle of militarism. I wish it were not necessary but it is empirically obvious.


58 posted on 04/30/2015 11:50:27 AM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent / Cruz 2016)
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To: lonestar67

“Prior to 911, the Chinese militarily took down a US military aircraft into their own territory. That was hugely aggressive.

Utterly retarded. A reconnaissance plane in international space, skirted along the edge of Chinese airspace, as has been done for decades. A Chinese fighter intercepted it and escorted it, as has been done for decades.
The third world barnstormer pilot accidently collided with the patrol plane, displaying 3rd world skill levels,,,as has been done for decades.
The crew landed in China.
Everyone had a tar baby on their hands.
Crew came home 10 days later,,,with all their fingernails.

Chinese apologized for something,,presumably their nutty pilot who had a previous hot dog reputation. And we apologized for something,, presumably taking up ramp space at their base.

Is THAT your reason why we should be interventionist all over earth? That makes no sense at all. As for Iranians seizing a vessel, that has always been justified war. In fact it is exactly what the Barbary pirate was was over.


63 posted on 04/30/2015 12:37:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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