Posted on 04/18/2015 5:37:57 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
ELSMERE, Ky. Officer Jesse Kidder has only been on the New Richmond police force for a year, but he did two tours of duty in Iraq as a Marine and he's a Purple Heart recipient.
Still, he said he's never been confronted the way he was on Thursday.
"Law enforcement officers all across the nation have to deal with split-second decisions that mean life or death. I wanted to be absolutely sure before I used deadly force," said Kidder.
It's easier said than done, and that has never been clearer than through the lens of Kidder's body camera, when the homicide suspect he was following on Thursday got out of his car and charged.
"He jumped out and he sprinted towards me. I had my firearm already drawn on me, and I told him to put his hands up in the air and he was screaming as he was yelling, 'Shoot me, shoot me'," Kidder said.
Dispatchers had told Kidder the suspect may threaten suicide by cop and that he could have a gun under his seat, but Kidder relied on his own split-second observations to know what to do.
"So he's got his arms at his side while he's running at me and that's the first thing I noticed," Kidder said as he watched the video. "He put his hand in his pocket there, so my eyes are watching that hand right now and nothing else."
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I feel certain a Marine with 2 tours of duty in Iraq under his belt knows when to pull the trigger.
The suspect had just murdered 2 people and is running at the officer with his hand in his pocket screaming that he has a gun and he’s going to shoot him. If you want to take the chance that he just kidding and doesn’t mean it be my guest.
No, I had my trusty slingshot./s
The cop used his judgement and handled the situation, he is proven right, yet some are angry as heck that he did not do a bad shooting.
Did you even have a gun with you?
So you don’t understand the term “pulled my weapon?”
It would not have been a bad shooting. No reasonable person could have faulted him. If you call laying on your back with a possibly armed murderer standing over you “handling the situation” then we’ll agree to disagree. Unless, of course, you think that layed down in the street on purpose to gain some tactical advantage. Goodnight.
I’m not sure that said that you pulled a gun on the man, did you pull a gun on him? Did the cop?
It would have been a bad shooting, he would have gotten away with it, but killing the man obviously wasn’t called for.
What is all this bloodlust that you guys have, why can’t a cop not kill someone, and make an arrest, and be left alone?
This cop is taking a beating and some on this thread want him gone from police work, because he did not unnecessarily kill a man he was arrested.
He didn't seem overly scared to me but being scared is always a factor. Appeared he did not see a weapon and decided to hold back, likely based on information he did have.
It goes both ways. Shooting someone to death before a weapon is ever seen can also be quite problematic for the shooter. Even though he was legally justified here.
The cop told the suspect he didn't want to shoot him but would if he had to. The suspect is telling the cop, "Shoot me" repeatedly but never produced a weapon.
It's human nature not to be too quick to take a life. It even happens in war. Its a moral thing. It's hard to completely train that out of most people.
While I infer it in my previous posts, see post 77.
Once the threat was over I put my weapon away. I don’t know if the cop pulled his weapon on him or not since I was not near the druggie, he retreated to his squatter’s hideaway and I retreated to safer distance further up the main driveway to my property until the cops arrived.
Thankfully, that druggie has since relocated to a different squatting location, but there are others in the my area. I am never on my property without my weapon.
By druggie, I guess you mean homeless person. I'm still mystified why your language about pulling your gun on the man is so inconclusive.
Did you pull the gun on the man to stop him, which is what you implied and the impression that you keep trying to give, did he look at you holding your gun and then stop?
This cop is stupid. He is lucky to be alive. Next time he may not be.
When someone says “I’m going to kill you” it’s best to believe them. It’s not a good idea to hope that they don’t.
If that were true I would have had to kill a lot of men.
Goodnite. You have the last word which is obviously what you need.
Huh? was I supposed to leave the thread before you went to bed?
Wow! Goodnite.
I hope you don’t mind if I keep responding to other posters for a while?
But previously the cop was told the suspect possibly wanted the cops to kill him. Suicide by cop. The suspect also repeatedly told the cop to shoot him. The cop told the suspect, who never did produce a weapon, he didn’t want to shoot him but would. He held off, and apparently the suspect had no gun on him.
You can’t change the outcome.
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