Posted on 04/18/2015 5:37:57 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
ELSMERE, Ky. —Officer Jesse Kidder has only been on the New Richmond police force for a year, but he did two tours of duty in Iraq as a Marine and he's a Purple Heart recipient.
Still, he said he's never been confronted the way he was on Thursday.
"Law enforcement officers all across the nation have to deal with split-second decisions that mean life or death. I wanted to be absolutely sure before I used deadly force," said Kidder.
It's easier said than done, and that has never been clearer than through the lens of Kidder's body camera, when the homicide suspect he was following on Thursday got out of his car and charged.
"He jumped out and he sprinted towards me. I had my firearm already drawn on me, and I told him to put his hands up in the air and he was screaming as he was yelling, 'Shoot me, shoot me'," Kidder said.
Dispatchers had told Kidder the suspect may threaten suicide by cop and that he could have a gun under his seat, but Kidder relied on his own split-second observations to know what to do.
"So he's got his arms at his side while he's running at me and that's the first thing I noticed," Kidder said as he watched the video. "He put his hand in his pocket there, so my eyes are watching that hand right now and nothing else."
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No, those are your words not mine.
I told you and others the officer had been previously advised the suspect might or possibly wanted the cops to shoot him.
Should his dispatch not provide those in the field with pertinently information?
er pertinent too...
But you keep repeating it to evidently try and make your point, which I assume is that if the cop knows this guy is looking to have someone shoot him, he is less of a danger.
Simple question: Does the fact that the suspect was looking for a cop that would shoot him make him less likely to draw a gun on a cop?
BTW, it's not "my" point. My comments are based on the article/story reported here and statements from the cop.
You on the other hand throw out words based on nothing I wrote. With you it's like an involuntary burp, the words just come out without thought.
I have no idea what the suspect was thinking or planning. You seem a bit slow. Once again my comments are based on the circumstances reported in the article/video.
I answered your question, but you evade mine. How’s that work?
I may be slow, but I’m in front of you.
The suspect ran at the officer with his hand in his pocket threatening to kill him.
The officer ran backwards for approx. 100 yds before tripping and falling. He easily could have lost his weapon, been incapacitated or knocked out.
When the officer falls the suspect is only feet away and appears to start to rush the officer until he sees the other 2 officers whereupon he lies down and surrenders. If the other officers hadn't shown up chances are he would have had to shoot or been fighting the perp for his own weapon.
If he was trying to commit suicide by cop why did he meekly surrender in the face of overwhelming force instead of forcing them to shoot him?
I belive that the officer made some bad decisions probably due to the political climate.
I also believe that things would have ended differently if the other 2 cops hadn't shown up when they did.
You are free to disagree with me and I would prefer to end this discussion.
Yes they did advised of that. But should they not report the other pertinent information which turned out be accurate?
BTW, once again, I have no idea what the suspect was thinking or why he did what he did.
My comments are based on what is known here.
After he falls the suspect is only feet away and appears to rush him until he sees the other 2 officers.
This could have turned out differently if the other officers hadn't shown up.
Maybe in your own mind, but certainly not based on your comments.
This wasn’t political correctness.
Cops don’t want to be used in the “suicide by cop” tactic. This cop knew ahead of time the guy was likely employing this tactic. Clearly, his combat experience helped him to avoid a miscarriage of justice.
The answer is yes.
Based on the fact I don't believe the suspect was black and the officer knew damn well he would have been justified killing suspect. No sale on this being a big political thing if he would have fired.
The officer even stated he wanted to make damn sure the suspect was a threat before shooting him to death. The officer held back because the suspect never once produced a weapon and in fact told the cop to shoot him, not to mention the officer was previously told the suspect possibly wanted to be shot by cops.
If the suspect had exited the vehicle with weapon in hand odds are great the suspect would have been in cold storage right now.
Did you read my last post to you?
The cop sized up the situation and arrested the man.
Why does that drive you insane?
It doesn’t. I have said that we can agree to disagree and asked that we end the discussion. You apparently can’t do that.
FWIW - From: New Richmond Police Department Webpage
"New Richmond Police Department is honored to welcome Jesse Kidder to the Police Department. Both were sworn in on April 16, 2014. Officer Jesse Kidder is a US Marine Infantry Veteran who was deployed to Iraq multiple times and is highly decorated including the Purple Heart for being wounded while in combat as well as the Combat Action Ribbon (CAR). Officer Kidder was a Corporal while in the Marine Corps in charge of leading Marines both in training and in combat. He brings skills and that will assist New Richmond Police Department in more effective policing."
As I said before we can agree to disagree. Please end the discussion.
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