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To: Retain Mike
Unaware of this pending mission, the 24 crews flew to Minneapolis where the bombers received extensive modifications. Installing auxiliary fuel tanks increased capacity over 70%. Range eventually increased from about 1,000 to 2,500 miles by also utilizing flying configurations and practices designed to conserve fuel. Increased fuel weight then required removing a 230 pound liaison radio. The lower twin 50cal. remote control turret was later removed at Eglin Field in Florida saving 600 pounds. An armored 40gal fuel tank was then inserted. Cameras were installed to record bombing results.

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On board the Hornet Greening installed a pair of black-painted broom handles in each aircraft's tail cone to intimidate attacking enemies.


Thanks for putting this together, and posting it every year.

Hope you don't mind that I suggest a small correction. The broomstick "tail guns" were put in at Minneapolis, actually before the belly turrets were removed. Here about halfway down you can see a couple pics of Doolittle B-25s at Minneapolis, one shot from the rear quarter of 02242 (Plane #8, piloted by Capt. Edward "Ski" York, which ended up landing in Russia) where you can just barely see the "tail guns" and the belly turret.

You can also see pictures here, about 20% of the way down (from the Roy Stork Collection) of the "tail guns" in place but the belly turrets now gone during the short take-off training.
26 posted on 04/19/2015 5:27:52 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: tanknetter

I got the information about the belly turret and the broom sticks from Doolittle’s autobiography, which for some unknown reason I failed to list among my references. On page 246 of the hardcopy he says, “While the pilots were training at an auxiliary field, modifications were continuing on the B-25’s at Elgin…..A major problem we encountered concerned the electrically powered gun turrets. The early B-25’s had a top and lower turret with twin .50-caleber machine guns….. There were no guns installed in the tail section…..Much credit must go to Ross Greening for solving our armament problems. He suggested that we install two broomsticks in the tail and paint them black to simulate a tail gun position…..And since the lower turrets gave us nothing but headaches and were very complicated to operate, Greening suggested removing them. Again, I approved.”

I read those pages again and the book (I Never Could Be So Lucky Again) seems to be following a linear time line implying these events happened in Florida. Any mention of Ross Greening doesn’t show up until they are in Florida. But I think am also seeing the same things you are.

I found at least one other inconsistancy when I was checking about the guns again. His autobiography says the tank replacing the lower turret was 60 gallons and another source says 40 gallons. The book says the 60 gallon tank was always intended to be filled from 10 5 gallon cans loaded onto the planes, but Ted Lawson says all the tanks were topped off before they lifted into the air.


30 posted on 04/19/2015 10:54:52 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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