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To: central_va
Funny I must have missed the history lesson where Lincoln ran his 1860 campaign as an abolitionist. I must of had a appointment or something.

Thank you for admitting that Lincoln was not an abolitionist and had no intention whatsoever of interfering with slavery where it already existed. This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.

I bet you have the gall to call yourself a Republican. And you probably consider Federalist George Washington a proto-Confederate.

37 posted on 04/14/2015 7:51:57 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thank you for admitting that Lincoln was not an abolitionist and had no intention whatsoever of interfering with slavery where it already existed.

In the manner that Barack Obama has no intention of interfering with American's right to own guns or bake non-gay wedding cakes.

The President has the ability to cause problems for people if he wants to, and I think no one doubted that he would, despite his assurances to the contrary.

This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.

I don't particularly care what a people's reasons are for wanting to leave. The Declaration of Independence tells me they can leave for whatever reason suits them.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

And you probably consider Federalist George Washington a proto-Confederate.

Well, He and Robert Lee were both Virginians fighting for independence from a larger and more powerful Union, so I guess if the shoe fits...

53 posted on 04/14/2015 8:05:06 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Zionist Conspirator

It seriously blows my mind that the most ardent defenders of the CSA just keep leaving out that the reasons they presented for their quickie secession would not pass the laugh test when you read them!

Nevermind that those very states heaped real oppression on the northern states by forcing them via the same central government that they profess to have been so tyrannical, to allow armed men to cross into their territory to hunt down the human slaves that ran away to freedom, with no recourse. Even stipulating that the local authorities had to help them!


57 posted on 04/14/2015 8:09:29 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thank you for admitting that Lincoln was not an abolitionist and had no intention whatsoever of interfering with slavery where it already existed. This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.

The primary reason they wanted to secede was over tariffs. The federal government imposed heavy tariffs on imported goods, and used the money to fund improvements (mostly in the North).

71 posted on 04/14/2015 8:28:04 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
This indicates that you are well aware that the secession of the Southern states was unjustified and was nothing but a hissy fit for losing the election.

The reason or reasons why the people of any state(s) VOTE to secede is of no concern to the rest of the USA.

123 posted on 04/14/2015 11:10:40 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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