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To: IronJack
It's a coward's way out. To hell with subtlety. Tell them right to their faces that their lifestyle is poisoned, and that you will not participate in it, or tacitly endorse it by providing material support

Perhaps you misunderstand the situation in the states where the legal persecution of Christians is already taking place. For instance, in Washington state, the young married couple who owned Sweet Cakes by Melissa have been ordered to pay $150,000 in damages to the lesbians they offended by not wanting to do their cake, and the state Human Rights Commission has further ordered them to take re-education instruction about tolerance to gblt's. They have five children to support and have been driven out of their business by hate mail and death threats. The state also prevented them from receiving crowdfunding support. So, you see, they did stand up and these injustices are what happened to them.

I'm not saying Christians shouldn't stand up. I am saying Christians need to be "wise as serpents" about how they handle these matters, especially if they need to protect their children, in those states where the power of government is being used to punish and humiliate and bankrupt Christians for being Christians.

166 posted on 04/12/2015 12:28:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: Albion Wilde
The context of being “wise as serpents” is in that of being sent out as sheep among wolves. What did the wolves do to the Apostles, eventually? Remember the verses that follow:
Beware of men, for they will deliver you over to courts and flog you in their synagogues, / and you will be dragged before governors and kings for my sake, to bear witness before them and the Gentiles.

— Matthew 10:17-18, ESV
So those with wisdom as serpents have to be ready for such trials; and indeed stand up.
170 posted on 04/12/2015 12:42:38 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Albion Wilde

I’m familiar with the Sweet Cakes case. My answer? Don’t pay. Don’t pay the fines, don’t pay the penalties, don’t attend the brainwashing classes. If the court can turn that into a criminal matter and put you in jail, OK. Then they have to support your family — and you — while you’re serving time. When you get out, go right back to what you were doing, meanwhile drawing welfare, food stamps, obamacare, obamaphone, and every other government assistance you can get.

Make punishing you so costly it will drain the system of resources. Meanwhile, you’re no worse off than you were when the homofascists invaded your business.


174 posted on 04/12/2015 1:09:03 PM PDT by IronJack
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