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To: baltimorepoet; CatherineofAragon
Most divorces are initiated by women, thus making men single. What men or the children want is irrelevant; with the legal system, it is only what the women want that is relevant.

It can work both ways. Many women get abandoned due to no-fault when their higher-earning husband wants a younger model and tries to just dump the first wife and take the kids to live with Barbie Secretary and the big new house with the pool, while the ex is cutting coupons to survive and desperate to try to continue being the primary caregiver to her children as she has been all the times he has been out of the house 12 hours a day on his high-flying career. He can afford the attorney firepower, she can't; and judges don't always award attorney fees to the separated homemaker, especially if the husband is a big professional man in the same circles of education and earning as the judge.

Who wins in no-fault? After the lawyers, it is either the higher-earning spouse or the spouse who is, and has always been, less-invested in the marriage.

The fact that more women initiate divorce than men indicates little. It could be because they perceive the need to take action in order to remove the children from drinking, unfaithfulness or porn in the household just as much as it could be for selfish reasons.

I have known people of both sexes who have been destroyed or raked over by no-fault. Every case is individual. But as a general observation, one of the things I have noticed about an "unequally yoked" couple is that when one has the traditional expectations of marital fidelity and the other does not, nothing can possibly turn out well; yet the cheater with no marital morals to begin with has the nerve to feel outraged that the faithful partner won't just let him or her continue the cheating and also stay married. So the perceptions and self-reports of individuals remain suspect unless one really knows what has gone on behind closed doors, and few of us ever do, much less a judge who has a case before him or her for a few minutes.

That is why both parties need to value marriage much more highly, think and learn about it, and choose their partners based on values beyond sexual attraction. Few do, these days.

106 posted on 03/12/2015 9:40:26 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The greatest danger facing our world: the marriage of militant Islam with nuclear weapons.-Netanyahu)
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To: Albion Wilde
The fact that more women initiate divorce than men indicates little. It could be because they perceive the need to take action in order to remove the children from drinking, unfaithfulness or porn in the household just as much as it could be for selfish reasons.

Are you actually being serious? How about the reason women initiate divorce more than men is because our feminist liberal legal system incentivizes feminist liberal selfishness over keeping the family together. And don't we know that feminist and liberals want to destroy the American family? (divorce, abortion, welfare, etc)

You would have me believe that a legal system which rewards certain behavior, does not in fact cause MORE of that behavior to occur? LOL~
109 posted on 03/12/2015 9:46:12 AM PDT by baltimorepoet
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To: Albion Wilde
"That is why both parties need to value marriage much more highly, think and learn about it, and choose their partners based on values beyond sexual attraction. Few do, these days."

This is why my husband and I took our time after meeting each other. Our first date made it clear that something special was going on, but we both knew that we would marry only once, and we wanted to do it right. So we took the time to get to know each other completely. We waited two years and three months before marrying. By that time, we were both more than ready, but we've never regretted the wait.

133 posted on 03/12/2015 10:43:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Albion Wilde

“The fact that more women initiate divorce than men indicates little.”

It indicates that women feel they can benefit from divorce. In most cases that is true. It does not in any way indicate who should have filed. Men often feel compelled to see the marriage through out of a sense of responsibility and not divorce, yet, many women do not feel that sense of responsibility. The fact that women file the divorce more than men is a negative against women.


146 posted on 03/12/2015 11:46:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Albion Wilde

“The fact that more women initiate divorce than men indicates little.”

That isn’t true at all, and is probably the primary reason men couldn’t be bothered with marriage anymore.


197 posted on 03/12/2015 8:17:49 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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