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School math question. Your input?

Posted on 03/10/2015 5:48:37 PM PDT by MNDude

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To: TaMoDee

That’s fine, but it’s an assumption not justified in the statement of the problem.


141 posted on 03/10/2015 7:41:23 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: The_Reader_David

Can you do some of that calculus and tell me an L and W that multiply to 12 and a 2L+2W that add to one of the other choices? I’m just looking for one set of numbers and will concede.


142 posted on 03/10/2015 7:42:28 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: FredZarguna

5.19*2.31=11.9889 not 12.


143 posted on 03/10/2015 7:45:10 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: FredZarguna

8.6*1.39=11.954 not 12. They said the area was 12.


144 posted on 03/10/2015 7:47:18 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy

Yep.


145 posted on 03/10/2015 7:51:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: FredZarguna

It’s my assumption and I’m sticking to it!


146 posted on 03/10/2015 7:51:42 PM PDT by TaMoDee (Go Pack Go! The Pack will be back in 2015!)
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To: mmichaels1970
That brings up an interesting question regarding rounding.

What are the appropriate significant digits for a baby blanket within the context of this problem, as stated and making no assumptions?

I believe it may be 2, because of the area value of 12, but I've never liked the constraints on pure mathematics enforced in engineering disciplines.

147 posted on 03/10/2015 7:52:31 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: TontoKowalski

Oh no. Not significant digits! Yuck. I suppose since the area is specified with 0 decimal places, we should assume no rounding right? :)


148 posted on 03/10/2015 7:55:34 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970
Ah. A pedant. OK.

8.60555127546 x 1.39444872454
-- or --
Solve the equation I gave you to as many significant digits as you want.

But be advised of this very simple fact: There is no measurement you can do with a ruler that has more than three significant digits, no matter how exact it looks. That includes something that appears to be "exactly" 3 inches by "exactly" 4 inches.

The truth is most actual measurements are irrationals, and the number of measurements that are integral (or even rational) is a set with probability measure ZERO.

149 posted on 03/10/2015 7:58:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: MNDude

= ~X


150 posted on 03/10/2015 7:59:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: mmichaels1970
Oh no. Not significant digits! Yuck. I suppose since the area is specified with 0 decimal places, we should assume no rounding right? :)

My son the engineer and I have almost come to blows over this issue.

For a problem involving 2 significant digits, he would restate a length of 12,247 units as 12,000, and he would restate a length of one unit as 1.0.

I view this approach as indefensible in practical problem solving in matters such as baby blankets.

151 posted on 03/10/2015 8:01:17 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: FredZarguna

The minimum perimeter is obtained with a circle, diameter approx 3.9 units, perimeter approx 12.28 units.


152 posted on 03/10/2015 8:01:29 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: FredZarguna
Your point on precision and accuracy in physical measurement is an excellent one.

This issue alone could generate a spin-off thread.

I hope it won't, but it could.

153 posted on 03/10/2015 8:07:39 PM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: FredZarguna

That still doesn’t multiply to 12. They didn’t say they measured it. They simply said it was 12 square units. I’m not sure how we can get ripped for assuming a rectangle while calc majors get away with assuming a GIVEN area of 12 is something other than 12.


154 posted on 03/10/2015 8:08:33 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: MNDude

Aren’t boarders discriminatory?


155 posted on 03/10/2015 8:09:13 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: TontoKowalski
but I've never liked the constraints on pure mathematics enforced in engineering disciplines.

Here is a great example I used to give engineering students who insisted on copying down 14 significant digit answers (directly from their calculators) about why significant digits keep you from looking stupid.

A docent shows a class of kindergartners a T-Rex skeleton. Little Johnny asks "Mister, how old is this skeleton?"

The docent replies: "This skeleton is 65 million and 20 years plus 14 days and 3 hours old."

"Wow!" says the kid, "How do they date it so accurately?"

The docent replies: "Because I just had my 20th anniversary two weeks ago on Monday, and we are a hour away from lunch, and on the day I was hired they told me that this skeleton was 65 million years old!"

Here's another example: The liars at NASA claim that 2014 was "the warmest year on record." But 2014 is "warmer" than the "next warmest year" by a difference of 0.02°, while the error in temperature measurements is 0.5°. That means, in fact, that 2014 isn't warmer at all. To the significance known, every year since 1997 is exactly the same temperature. Their differences are purely nominal. In fact, within the range of significance, 2014 could actually be one of COLDEST years since 2000.

156 posted on 03/10/2015 8:10:04 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: MNDude
The answer is Dog. *Maths. I'm onaroll*


157 posted on 03/10/2015 8:10:08 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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To: TontoKowalski
I view this approach as indefensible in practical problem solving in matters such as baby blankets.

I concur. Same goes for installing ceramic floor tiles.
158 posted on 03/10/2015 8:10:59 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Cboldt

Of course, but unlike many of the assumptions made by others on this thread, the assumption of a rectangular blanket is reasonable.


159 posted on 03/10/2015 8:12:33 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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160 posted on 03/10/2015 8:13:28 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We Are Not Descended From Fearful Men")
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