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People from Tuscany are most similar to Neanderthals
Abroad in the Yard ^ | February 9, 2012 | AITY

Posted on 02/15/2015 1:54:45 AM PST by SunkenCiv

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To: Bobalu

What is Barney’s Frank doing these days?


21 posted on 02/15/2015 7:30:32 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Moltke; BwanaNdege
When they’re talking 1/2 % differences, is that just another experimental distinction without practical significance?

Perhaps.

OTOH, Europeans and Asians seem to have more initiative than Africans. Odd that that would come from Neanderthaler blood, since the Neanderthals kept the same toolkit for 100,000 years, but there it is.

Who was the FReeper who told the tale of the rope swing in Africa?

22 posted on 02/15/2015 8:02:11 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
What is Barney’s Frank doing these days?

Did you mean:

Who is Barney Frank doing these days?

Oh wait. I see what you did there! 0_o

23 posted on 02/15/2015 8:04:13 AM PST by null and void (People who deny history are trying to recreate it.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting!


24 posted on 02/15/2015 8:14:30 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SunkenCiv

<< In Africa, the Yoruba of Nigeria have substantially more Neanderthal similarity than the Luhya of Kenya. This is puzzling, because the geographic location of the Luhya in East Africa seems better placed for Neanderthal similarity to appear, whether through ancient population structure or through the backmigration into Africa of Neanderthal descendants. Instead, the Yoruba in West Africa are the recipients of Neanderthal genes. >>

Hmm...I wonder if this might imply early exploration/migration from Europe down the West African coast? Sort of the same route taken by the early explorers, only over land instead of by sea?


25 posted on 02/15/2015 8:19:01 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I just saw that movie again with my wife two months ago, and I loved it. I had told her of this very scary movie I saw as a child (Sunday afternoon item) and finally identified it as “Quatarmass and the Pit.” Found the whole movie on Youtube.

It great to see another who knows about it.

26 posted on 02/15/2015 8:33:23 AM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

Sadly it is very hard to get on DVD. The Region 2 version is only $15, but the Region 1 version is $75 used and $79 new.


27 posted on 02/15/2015 9:01:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SunkenCiv

Imo, it’s just as likely that the genetic material was brought in to the Italian AO with the Goths or Vandals, rather than the current gene mix indicating something unique about the peninsula back in the time of the actual mixing.

Since the Brits were also mentioned in the article...

Imo, any sampling of Brit DNA is only going to provide info on the DNA carried into the island starting with the Roman conquest and forward. I doubt there’s a whole lot of DNA remaining in Britain that wasn’t transported to that AO from elsewhere within recorded history.


28 posted on 02/15/2015 10:00:46 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Tax-chick; Disambiguator; Savage Beast

:’)


29 posted on 02/15/2015 10:11:18 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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To: M1903A1; BenLurkin; Moltke; fso301; null and void; Grimmy

The problem with that one (I left it in on purpose) is that geographic origins can’t be determined using modern distributions of genetic markers. There’s no trail, and genes vanish on a random basis.

If one were to want to make such conclusions about geographical origin, the larger presence in Nigeria, which is coastal, could mean the Neandertals moved to higher ground as the glaciation ended and the ocean rose, flooding their former habitations. Kenya by contrast is inland.


30 posted on 02/15/2015 10:18:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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To: Darksheare

I don’t care who you are, that there was funny!!
Q:”where can the greatest concentration of muzzie DNA be found in the Mideast?”
A: “goats.”


31 posted on 02/15/2015 3:47:06 PM PST by Segovia
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To: Grimmy
Imo, it’s just as likely that the genetic material was brought in to the Italian AO with the Goths or Vandals, rather than the current gene mix indicating something unique about the peninsula back in the time of the actual mixing.

The Etruscans, for whom Tuscany is named, were probably not native to Italy. They are thought to have arrived from an as yet unknown place, probably somewhere in Anatolia, prior to the rise of Rome. They were amazing civil engineers, metalworkers and artisans and the Romans built their cities and culture largely upon the Etruscan model. Any genetic mixing with Neanderthals occurred long before their arrival in Tuscany.

From Wiki: "A DNA study performed in Italy ... partly gave credence to the theory of Herodotus, as the results showed that 11 minor mitochondrial DNA lineages extracted from different Etruscan remains occur nowhere else in Europe and are shared only with Near Eastern Anatolian people."

32 posted on 02/15/2015 5:09:03 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: Grimmy
"Imo, any sampling of Brit DNA is only going to provide info on the DNA carried into the island starting with the Roman conquest and forward. I doubt there’s a whole lot of DNA remaining in Britain that wasn’t transported to that AO from elsewhere within recorded history."

Not so says Stephen Oppenheimer in his book: Origins Of The British

33 posted on 02/15/2015 5:21:32 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: SunkenCiv

The secret of the Etruscans?


34 posted on 02/16/2015 1:26:04 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
They definitely have managed to keep most of their secrets.

35 posted on 02/16/2015 1:44:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary men)
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To: Grimmy; SunkenCiv
Myths Of British Ancestry

"The genetic evidence shows that three quarters of our ancestors came to this corner of Europe as hunter-gatherers, between 15,000 and 7,500 years ago, after the melting of the ice caps but before the land broke away from the mainland and divided into islands. Our subsequent separation from Europe has preserved a genetic time capsule of southwestern Europe during the ice age, which we share most closely with the former ice-age refuge in the Basque country. The first settlers were unlikely to have spoken a Celtic language but possibly a tongue related to the unique Basque language."

"Another wave of immigration arrived during the Neolithic period, when farming developed about 6,500 years ago. But the English still derive most of their current gene pool from the same early Basque source as the Irish, Welsh and Scots. These figures are at odds with the modern perceptions of Celtic and Anglo-Saxon ethnicity based on more recent invasions. There were many later invasions, as well as less violent immigrations, and each left a genetic signal, but no individual event contributed much more than 5 per cent to our modern genetic mix."

36 posted on 02/16/2015 11:03:26 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

So, maybe the Romans, Saxons, Engles (sp), Normans and others kept it in their own pants...

or...

maybe stats drawn from an insufficiently large pool of samples?


37 posted on 02/16/2015 11:56:29 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy
"maybe stats drawn from an insufficiently large pool of samples?"

Quit struggling.

It's okay to admit that you were wrong and that you've learned something.

38 posted on 02/16/2015 2:52:37 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: SunkenCiv

Do Neanderthal paintings therefore include the obligatory Tuscan scenes?


39 posted on 02/16/2015 2:55:12 PM PST by aposiopetic
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To: aposiopetic

They probably invented wine, and then wound drinking themselves into extinction, so much for their larger brains, eh?


40 posted on 02/16/2015 3:10:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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