Posted on 02/12/2015 12:13:17 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
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What, did pot kill your family or something? I don't get it.
If you have a valid argument, we'd love to hear it. If all you have is venom and hatred, then not so much.
But which will lead to murderous dictators when society collapses. "Strong Men" are always called in to restore order when societies fail.
See Mao, China.
Is this a corollary to "I'm not as think you drunk I am"?
Maybe we should have a thread on why it's not good to drink vodka straight from the bottle and then post on FR!
Bipolar disorder and marijuana don’t mix.
Again, some people respond differently to drugs. The "It never caused *ME* any problems!" crowd is simply unaware that one size does not fit all.
It seriously screws up some people.
Back in the day, a friend had the “I’m not as think as you stoned I am” bumper sticker on his car.
He had to take it off because the cops kept pulling him over.
He was more likely to be drunk than stoned, however.
So one chooses between death and death....not much of a choice! If the USA has become a nation where it’s people must put their lives at risk by doing dope in order to cope with the realities of life in these United States...then we might as well sell ourselves to the Chinese and end this experiment of republican(small “r’) government. Our nation has lost it’s raison d’etre and has no hope, honor or truth to offer it’s citizens. Our legacy has been despoiled!
Are you a doctor or a nurse? I’m not being sarcastic, just curious.
I know someone who smoked that synthetic ‘weed’ they used to sell at convenience stores. He was messing around with a mutual friend’s loaded gun and shot a hole into the wall, taking the TV out with it. I wasn’t there, thankfully.
I'm betting West Coast where the money flows easily.
The normal laws of social physics don't apply when their is sufficient prosperity.
No. Anything to excess is a bad thing. All us grownups understand that.
I and Gargantua did not get to where we are now by being high on drugs constantly for our entire lives, just like you did not get to your place by being constantly drunk for the last 20 years.
Of course pot has possible negative effects, just like every single other thing you can possibly put in your body, such as water. No one disputes that. Is this really the crux of your argument? If so, your sauce is weak sauce.
Thus, you believe that if a small percentage are affected negatively by a drug, then it should be removed from society. Congratulations, you just removed every modern drug in existence. Ever listen to ANY pharmaceutical commercial? More than half of the spoken words are warnings about bad side effects that some people might have. Dolt.
Some of the consequences we see from the drug war are the result of the incompetent manner in which we insist on fighting it.
But I want you to contemplate another drug war in history. The one in which the nation fighting it lost, and drugs became legalized.
If you want to talk about destabilization, brother you ain't seen nothing.
If you think our response to drugs is bad, you should see how much worse was the alternative.
Yes, it would be better. Eating it is a superior delivery method, but it takes a little preparation. You can't just break a chunk off the plant and eat it.
There is also a middle ground called "vaping". It makes the active ingredient into an inhaleable airborne oil without burning the actual plant material, and thus no tar. It's not perfect but it is a big improvement, lung health-wise.
A lot of people labor under the false impression that if drugs were legalized there would be no pushers trying to hook people.
Of course there will be, and they will use the latest and most effective stuff to accomplish it.
Sounds like a variation on the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. My own personal experience with weed smokers is that they often gravitate to other highs, and they no longer bother with weed when they can find something better.
I used to know a pimp that hooked young girls by starting them off on weed, and within a week he had them smoking crack. Weed was just the icebreaker.
Plenty.
Or what he referred to as his favorite time of day/activity on his veranda as the sun set?
How about you inform me?
The same arguments you are making now about weed were made by the Abolitionists during Prohibition. If booze is legalized, the country will wither, the spines will warp, and the allies will lose the war!
Well if all drugs are equal to alcohol, let us put coke, heroine and meth on the menu as well. Any problems with that? If so, I can't see why. Your position seems to be that there is no difference between the various sorts of drugs, and that they should all be treated like alcohol.
Those who refuse to learn from history, etc.
Why do you keep referencing "legacy weed"? It's silly.
If pot is really "500 times stronger" then the end user simply needs to ingest 1/500th of the normal amount. It's not rocket science, and the human body cannot overdose on it.
Normally what happens is after a few minutes of ingesting it, we lose interest in ingesting it further, and invariably someone says "Hey, let's go ride our bikes!" or "Hey, let's build shelves in ther garage!"
And then we go ride our bikes, or build shelves out in the garage, etc.
It has been shown many, many times that there is no such thing as a "gateway" or "stepping stone" drug. What there are is folks who have addictive personalities and who are prone to addiction.
I’ve seen your type of reasoning before...from the guy who tried to light the pot pipe he had hidden in his knapsack and tried to tell me that he didn’t “know that it was wrong to smoke pot in the hospital
As for your “ clinical term” phantasmagoric cucky-poo...the actual term is “denial” that is on your part. I have 28 years in the field of nursing, critical care and psychiatry. I did not attack you personally but did cite continuing observations that you seem to have taken personally.
My name is Michael Mathis RN living in Richmond, Va. I’ll take responsibility and sign my name to what you have called “cucky Poo”! Do you have the character to sign your real name to what you do and say?! ( After all,that’s what the real adults do!)
"We were only able to identify a small number of studies of variable quality, thus our conclusions remain preliminary." - http://www.jad-journal.com/article/S0165-0327%2814%2900570-9/abstract
From the posted news item:
"a study published this month found marijuana could be used to treat the depression that results from long term stress."
It is not so simple as your statement indicates. I argue that for any society there is an acceptable rate of loss. A society that loses more than it's acceptable rate of loss is doomed to collapse.
The actual percentage is not a trivial point.
Congratulations, you just removed every modern drug in existence.
No I didn't, that's just your strawman talking. You are offering a false equivalence between losses from drugs by all causes, with no regard for cost vs benefit.
I dare say that some of those losses are from drugs that otherwise save people's lives, and so the cost versus benefit is worth it.
Thank you for the advice; If I ever become a pimp I will work this into my overall business model. Sounds like a great idea, /Sarc.
PS: I oppose legalization because I do not want society to condone pot use for kids. I agree that a stigma is a good thing, culturally. The less kids using pot, the better. The more that adults are allowed to make their own decisions, the better too.
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