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Saving lives: Improved vehicle designs bring down death rates
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety ^ | January 29, 2015 | unattributed

Posted on 02/11/2015 10:37:02 AM PST by jjotto

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Safest vehicles per the records: Audi A4 AWD, Lexus RX 350 AWD, Mercedes GL AWD, Volvo XC90 AWD, Honda Odyssey, Kia Sorento 2WD, Toyota Highlander Hybrid AWD, Toyota Sequoia 4WD, Subaru Legacy AWD

Among the surprising least safe: Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew 4WD

1 posted on 02/11/2015 10:37:03 AM PST by jjotto
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To: jjotto

Who stacked the deck?


2 posted on 02/11/2015 10:38:35 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: exnavy

IIHS.

This caught my attention because the usual angle is to get people into smaller cars. This charts fatalities per million miles and clearly shows larger vehicles are generally much safer and that small cheap cars are death traps. And it also shows what must be some design defects in what otherwise should be very safe vehicles.


3 posted on 02/11/2015 10:44:51 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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One thing that is even more surprising to me is:

The Ford Crown Vic is one of the safest rated vehicles while the Mercury Grand Marquis is among the worst rated.

They are basically identical cars.


4 posted on 02/11/2015 10:47:40 AM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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Chevy Silverado 1500 Crew 4WD

Also most likely to have an accident preceded by the words "hold my beer"?

5 posted on 02/11/2015 10:48:13 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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That might indicate that this is simply accumulated data, and could be skewed by a few particularly bad accidents. Without knowing the particulars, it might also be that the Mercury version has some feature (traction, breaking, etc.) that doesn’t function as intended.


6 posted on 02/11/2015 10:53:00 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: thackney

hehe

That’s what I thought when I first saw it on the list. Also most likely to have the body returned to its home country.


7 posted on 02/11/2015 10:54:57 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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It would have to be the former. If the latter, NTSA would be over Ford Motor Company like a bedbug filled blanket.


8 posted on 02/11/2015 10:57:56 AM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: jjotto

Not a single “US” manufacturer on the list.

I stopped looking those reports years ago. The main reason was their inherent bias against US manfacturers, and the other reason is that the number spread between them safety wise are so small, that the numbers are basically the same. An example would be 12 fatalities per a million Audis vs. 13 fatalities per million Chevy pickups. And did they factor in the number of each models that are currently on the road?

The top of that list represents a small number of vehicles actually on the highway.


9 posted on 02/11/2015 11:26:09 AM PST by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: jjotto

Yes. The deck was stacked against larger, safer cars and trucks.


10 posted on 02/11/2015 11:42:34 AM PST by exnavy (Got ammo, Godspeed)
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To: factoryrat

A minimum of 100,000 registered vehicles seems like an acceptable sample size to me.


11 posted on 02/11/2015 11:43:09 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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The real proof of this is all the ambulance chaser tort lawyers (declining business every year) have moved into disability claims law.


12 posted on 02/11/2015 11:46:43 AM PST by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: thackney

lol - what I was thinking too. There’s many factors, other than the vehicle, that will impact these numbers. I’m sure SUV vs small car will have a common outcome, the same as Semi vs. SUV. So while an SUV is technically safer than a small car the death rates in small cars would be less if we didn’t have SUV’s (not advocating that!).

Different vehicles attract different types of drivers. The type of driver that buys a BMW M3 is often driving differently than somebody owning a minivan.

It would be interesting to see deaths broken down by gender, at fault, DWI, angle of impact, price point, etc..

...there’s certainly some stereotypes that come to mind!


13 posted on 02/11/2015 11:52:31 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: thackney

As the owner of a 2015 one, I would argue that statement. I always stop when I ask someone to hold my beer.


14 posted on 02/11/2015 11:54:55 AM PST by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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Dynamic Stability Control is supposedly helping avoid many crashes.
The funny part is i live on a steep hill and during Monday’s snowstorm i couldn’t get up the hill that i live on.
I would floor the gas and the RPM wouldn’t get above 2000 and the car would get stuck. i was wondering what was going on then i noticed the traction control light blinking.
I shut off both the TC and DSC and the car revved right up, wheels spun like crazy but i got up the hill.
Learned a lesson that day.


15 posted on 02/11/2015 11:55:59 AM PST by mowowie (`)
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Kia Sorento 2WD

I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those anyway.

16 posted on 02/11/2015 11:57:46 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: thackney
Yep. The people who are doing the driving have far more to do with accident rates than the design of the vehicle itself.

Don't know if it is still true, but an insurance underwriter told me that red vehicles got into higher accident rates for their number than any other color and rates were quoted accordingly.

It is not that red is an unsafe color. It is actually safer due to higher visibility. But drivers who liked red also took more chances.

Another interesting thing he told me was that a lime florescent green was actually the most visible color. School bus yellow rated a distant second.

17 posted on 02/11/2015 11:58:10 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mowowie

It still pays to read the manual.


18 posted on 02/11/2015 12:01:42 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
The Ford Crown Vic is one of the safest rated vehicles while the Mercury Grand Marquis is among the worst rated.

I suspect the age demographics of the respective drivers' samples are somehow related to this discrepancy. Grand Marquis drivers tend to be older, which probably factors into crash survival rates.

19 posted on 02/11/2015 12:05:33 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Yes.

And I think a lot of Crown Vics are used somewhat commercially with experienced drivers used to any quirks.


20 posted on 02/11/2015 12:09:22 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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