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To: DiogenesLamp

I’ll spell out the point for you since you are choosing to play dumb.

You said (and I quote) “If you think anyone back then would have regarded former slaves as ‘natural born citizens’ or Indians as ‘natural born citizens’ or Texan Nationals as natural born citizens’, you have got a screw loose.
In the case of Slaves or Indians it is a virtual certainty that there would be no natural affinity for the nation and no love lost for it. You think the founders would be okay with American Hating people in the office of the Presidency? It seems to me that this is the very sort of thing that article II was intended to prevent.” Those were your exact words.

I then pointed out that your words were a racist gross over-generalization and that both slaves and freemen plus entire American Indian tribes fought with the colonists in the Revolution. You then backpedalled as fast as your feet can pedal backwards.
The estimates are that approxmately 6% of Washington’s Army at Valley Forge were black soldiers. The famed First Rhode Island regiment composed almost entirely of blacks and Indians fought under General Washington’s command. The U.S. Army was not to be racially integrated again until the Korean War.
You got it now?


265 posted on 02/24/2015 3:14:20 PM PST by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Nero Germanicus
You then backpedalled as fast as your feet can pedal backwards.

In your mind.

You got it now?

No, not really. You are somehow reading something into it that *I* didn't put in there. I'll tell you what I do get out of it. Something in there has struck a nerve with you, and that lends some insight into where you are coming from. You are apparently sensitive to issues of race, and you also apparently do not want to face the fact that for much of our History, our populace and our governance was blatantly racist.

As a matter of fact, this response makes it clearer why you have been so persistently trying to cover for Obama. You see this as a racial issue, and that's where I think your concerns lie.

You see, My best friend through High school and for much of my life was Black, (I just went to his mom's funeral two weeks ago. He lives in another state, so we don't get to talk much anymore.) and his favorite topic was race and race issues. It was all he wanted to talk about, and we had a lot of conversations on this topic.

One of the things i've learned from these conversations is that the best thing you can do is to ignore race, and look at people as just humans; Judge them on their own capabilities and their own History. This is where many defenders of Obama go wrong. They refuse to judge him on his own merits and his own history, and insist on judging him as a "race" first, and a man second.

They are the racists. Being afraid to criticize a man because of his race *IS* racist. It is treating him differently on the account of race. It is defacto discrimination. An Honest man calls a fool a fool even if he is Black. A Dishonest one shies away from speaking the blunt truth.

By any reasonable standard, Obama is a complete screw up, and his background is totally nebulous and shaky. Had he been a Bill Clinton with this same pile of crap in his background, do not think for a minute that we would have been any less strenuous in maligning him and trying to get him kicked out of office. You didn't have access to my commentary during the Clinton Administration, but I assure you I said some very nasty things about that Treasonous, Dope smoking draft dodging, greasy, lying sack of Sh*t that was "Bubba" Clinton.

But you need to stop chasing "boogeyman."

267 posted on 02/25/2015 6:53:33 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
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