I filled out the 4473, he put it in as a favor to make sure I could get them back. The guns belonged to my father and where inherited by my mother. I am just trying to figure this out. Not made up!! For all the gathered intelligence on this site you all are jaded morons.
Soon enough nobody will be allowed to inherit a gun
“he put it in as a favor to make sure I could get them back”
1. It’s against Federal for him to do that.
2. Again, the guns are not yours, they are your mother’s. She’s the one that should be pawning them, not you. Take her to the pawn shop to pawn them, and then have her sign the Form 4473 to get them back. Unless she’s a felon too.
BTW, your “friend” should have told you, as a convicted felon, that no way were you going to get them back AND he should have refused to have anything at all to do with you concerning guns, since he knows you are a felon, much less break Federal law running an illegal background check on a known felon. That is, unless your “friend” is as casual about the law as you.
Oh, and I bet your “manager friend” is not the holder of the shop’s FFL and if the shop’s owner knew this was going on, he’d have a conniption fit and fire your “friend”, that is unless the owner too is casual about the gun laws and doesn’t care whether he loses his FFL over shady transactions involving felons and guns.
Don’t name call Newbie. Your initial story was lacking details and sounded fishy.
Your choice of Screen Name doesn’t help. Some of us might take it the wrong way. That’s life in the Internet.
Now, in Obama’s America, your behavior may be suspect to the Authorities who are looking at any excuse to go after those they feel are a problem.
If your story is on the up and up, get a Lawyer, period.
This isn’t Dear Abby.
“For all the gathered intelligence on this site you all are jaded morons.”
That is true - at least on the jaded part! (Me included).
Sounds like you are figuring it out. I’m not sure where you live, but in many states you can sell firearms privately. I’m in Washington state and that was the case up until this past December when they passed a stupid law banning private sales (even to a close relative!)
There is a website called www.armslist.com that has listings of firearms for all the states. In Washington you can still buy/sell them, but they need to go through a FFL and pay the fee to do the check. That might be too much running around for your mom though. And you would need to spend some time figuring out what the rules are in your state. Of course if your state doesn’t require that, be sure you set up a private sale safely.
I’ve never had to pawn anything, but I’m guessing they don’t pay the best.
That is incredibly foolish on the part of your friend.
See, first of all, he committed fraud by submitting the NICS check without an actual transfer being attempted or intended. Big no-no.
Second, in the eyes of the ATF, a transfer was attempted or intended, so they now get to discover the whereabouts of the fiream. Not sure if the law allows them to seize the gun(s), but at a minimum, if the guns are now in your possession, with the FFL having run NICS, the FFL is now in deep crap, because as far as the ATF is concerned, an illegal transfer occurred.