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To: Heartlander

The problem with creationists view of “Darwinism” is that they are confused about evolution. He proposed a mechanism for speciation. Creationists keep thinking he proposed that life came about as an accident. Creationists are just too dumb to know what to argue about.


54 posted on 01/20/2015 11:21:06 AM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (antine)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
Tell that to these stupid ‘creationists’:
Darwin showed that material causes are a sufficient explanation not only for physical phenomena, as Descartes and Newton had shown, but also for biological phenomena with all their seeming evidence of design and purpose. By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous. Together with Marx's materialistic theory of history and society and Freud's attribution of human behavior to influences over which we have little control, Darwin's theory of evolution was a crucial plank in the platform of mechanism and materialism…
-Douglas Futuyma's Evolutionary Biology (1998, 3rd Ed., Sinauer Associates), p. 5
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In a universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference.
- Richard Dawkins, River Out of Eden: A Darwinian View of Life

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Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly.
1) No gods worth having exist.
2) No life after death exists.
3) No ultimate foundation for ethics exists.
4) No ultimate meaning in life exists.
5) Human free will is nonexistent.
- William Provine (from Darwin Day speech)

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If, for instance, to take an extreme case, men were reared under precisely the same conditions as hive-bees, there can hardly be a doubt that our unmarried females would, like the worker-bees, think it a sacred duty to kill their brothers, and mothers would strive to kill their fertile daughters; and no one would think of interfering.
- Charles Darwin, Descent of Man, and Selection in Regard to Sex


56 posted on 01/20/2015 11:38:02 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Sure, there are “laymen” out there who have that confusion, but to say that is true of creationists in general is just a straw man.


111 posted on 01/21/2015 8:38:00 AM PST by Boogieman
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