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To: philoginist
Your argument sounds like you are suggesting a mind could come from something mindless. What am I missing?

It is not my argument - it’s yours

49 posted on 01/20/2015 10:36:36 AM PST by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse OÂ’Leary)
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To: Heartlander

You said, “...ultimately comes from mindlessness,” didn’t you?

I said evolution is wrong. I know there is no abiogenesis, that life only comes from life and that minds only come from minds.

I think the issue is one you have not mentioned. I think you have accepted a premise for which there is no conclusive evidence; namely; that there is some kind of “beginning.” Perhaps there was, but there is no evidence for any such beginning. I know cosmologist believe in a pseudo-beginning called the, “big bang,” but that is only a hypothesis with many questions. It makes one terrible assumption: that we know all there is know about the universe and will never learn anything new that contradicts our current view.

I don’t know why you believe in beginnings, if you do. I do not accept that premise. The only evidence I have is the evidence of the universe as it is, which includes the life on this planet, in all of which, species only come from similar species, and life only comes from life. I have no evidence that this is not a principle that may well apply to the whole universe.

Where did everything come from? I’m not convinced that everything wasn’t always much as it is, but even if there were some kind of origin, I have no idea what it could have been, and either does anyone else.

If you believe in origins of some kind based on anything other than evidence—faith for example—and that satisfies you, good for you. I have no interest in changing your mind. I just wanted to explain why your assumption that, just because I do not believe as you do, it means I believe mind can come from anything without mind is specious. I know that mind cannot come from anything without mind.


57 posted on 01/20/2015 11:43:45 AM PST by philoginist
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