[Heartlander]

FYI - ID has nothing to do with a 4000 year time frame.

[ctdonath2]

Then the first step is clarifying the “young earth” vs “old universe” dichotomy within the ID crowd. Otherwise it’s hard to tell what we’re all actually arguing about; makes a big difference whether we’re discussing a premise where everything that exists can’t fit in the universe.

[Mr. Lucky]

...and, or course, the Theory of Evolution, however defined, has nothing to do with the origin of life.