Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Death Of A Nation: Japanese Births Drop To Lowest Ever, Deaths Hit All Time High
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/03/2015 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/03/2015 10:30:32 AM PST by SeekAndFind

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-31 last
To: Reaganez

It will take some very illiberal policies to reverse Japan’s fertility rate.

______________

What are you thinking? I don’t see many options/


21 posted on 01/03/2015 1:43:40 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: PGR88

>> highly interventionist Fed monetary policy <<

That’s not the same as monetarism. You might want to brush up on your Friedman reading.


22 posted on 01/03/2015 1:59:53 PM PST by Hawthorn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Chickensoup

Abortion is technically illegal in Japan but with exceptions so broad it is widely practiced and accepted today. So start with banning abortions in practice.

Losing medical license for doctors all the way up to death penalty.

Re-impregnating women in the lab who have had abortions.Make getting an abortion pointless.

Banning birth control. Better to have children unwanted by their mother than no children at all.

Using the tax code to punitively tax the childless. You can’t lead a luxurious lifestyle INSTEAD of having and spending money on children.

Promotions at work only for those with 2 children or more. In other words, promotions only for patriots.

Reversing the Japanese fertility rate will require policies that will make Western governments go apeS%!t.

There are only two options for Japanese policymakers to reverse dramatic population declines: increase the birthrate or dramatically increase immigrations. 97%+ of Japanese are adamantly against large scale immigration.

They have largely run out of carrots to increase the birthrate. Free healthcare for kids,free childcare, child tax credits and ~$5k grant for baby supplies. The only unused tools in the arsenal are sticks.

Nothing is guaranteed to success. A wholesale societal revolt could happen. A society hellbent on committing suicide can’t be stopped.


23 posted on 01/03/2015 2:26:18 PM PST by Reaganez
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Reaganez

Of course they could always dump the burden of the elderly by making death of elderly patriotic


24 posted on 01/03/2015 2:37:13 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Chickensoup

That solves half the problem.

A steady population of 60M could be just fine with a 2.03 fertility rate. The Japanese could be happy being an irrelevant outpost in the suburbs of Beijing kowtowing to the Han Emperor.

A population of 60M with a 1.4 fertility rate on a downward spiral is still a march to Japan’s suicide. A better lifestyle on the way to suicide without having to pay all that elderly care for sure.


25 posted on 01/03/2015 2:58:06 PM PST by Reaganez
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Reaganez

You don’t think the population would turn around if they young ones wouldn’t have the elderly to support?


26 posted on 01/03/2015 3:22:55 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: MCH
Population growth = economic growth is an eventual failed policy.

Really? History says the opposite is true. There can be no sustained economic growth without population growth, and population growth in free market democracies during peacetime has always resulted in economic growth in the long-term. There is nothing more valuable than people.

27 posted on 01/03/2015 3:37:10 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Chickensoup

Not in a significant way.

It falls mostly to the middle aged,out of their prime kid making years, to take care of the elderly that can’t care for themselves.

The problem in Japan is that too many young people in their prime don’t want children. No matter their personal circumstances. Too many Japanese in their 20’s and early 30’s want to spend their time and money on travel,luxury goods,high end restaurants,concerts and electronic gadgets. Or living in some sub-culture rather than raising families.

Too many Japanese in the 20-35 age bracket, not unlike their Western counterparts, want to live in an extended adolescence but with more cash.The real problem does not seem to be time or money but rather the desire to have children and live in a family unit with adult responsibilities.


28 posted on 01/03/2015 3:57:58 PM PST by Reaganez
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Ronaldus Magnus
Population growth = economic growth is an eventual failed policy.

Really? History says the opposite is true. There can be no sustained economic growth without population growth, and population growth in free market democracies during peacetime has always resulted in economic growth in the long-term. There is nothing more valuable than people.

Yes, really. Note the qualifier "eventual." History is of no use here, since at no time in world history has the world population been 7 billion people. At what point does economic growth stop because there are just too many? 30 billion? 2 trillion? 50 trillion people?

My point is, earth's human population cannot grow indefinitely, unless we figure out how to colonize other planets or something. At some point we'll either run out of food, or run out of room. Thus, eventually the never ending growth strategy to maintain economic health HAS to come to an end based on pure logic. Granted not in our lifetime, but it's an inevitability at some point as long as we're earthbound.

29 posted on 01/03/2015 5:03:54 PM PST by MCH
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Forward the Light Brigade
Way its going—they will become a part of the Chinese Han Empire in the future—as they were in the past.

I don't believe Japan was ever a part of China. The Japanese empire did pay tribue to China, and many Japanese leaders sought to import aspects of China's culture, including the Buddhist religion and the Chinese system of writing. But that's short of being part of the Han Empire.

Perhaps I have missed something, I studied both the History of China and the History of Japan in college, but that was more than 30 years ago.

30 posted on 01/03/2015 7:37:35 PM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: MCH
It's a trend in advanced societies. Woman stop wanting to have enough kids to replace themselves. Japan is the furthest along this curve, but most of Europe is in the same boat. Japan is unique in not wanting to import immigrants.

Pat Buchanan's "Death of the West" dealt with the implications, as did Mark Steyn's "America Alone".


31 posted on 01/03/2015 7:46:43 PM PST by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-31 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson