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To: ravenwolf; Stingray

Of the Revelation, the only parts that are past are up to the 5th seal.

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All else is clearly future events as viewed by the apostle John in his visions. His descriptions of our military helicopters as scorpions with the faces of men is right on the money.

He is describing NATO attacking Israel.

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77 posted on 12/31/2014 10:05:18 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Of the Revelation, the only parts that are past are up to the 5th seal.


Only if you take every thing in the order in which it was wrote.

Rev 12 describes the resurrection of our lord.

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

I don`t believe the above verse could be referring to any one except Jesus.


81 posted on 12/31/2014 11:05:28 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: editor-surveyor

He’s actually describing two things: the civil war fought within Jerusalem’s walls itself, and the Roman siege of Jerusalem that led to its fall in 70 AD.

Revelation is a “prophetic exposition” of the Olivet Discourse at which, according to the Gospel of Mark, John was one of the four disciples present. Wonder why there is no Olivet Discourse in John’s gospel? It’s because while the other gospel writers devoted about two chapters to it, John wrote an entire book about it.

Revelation has nothing to do whatsoever with the time in which we live until you get to chapter 21, wherein John describes the nature of Christ’s kingdom: His church.

We live in the “new heavens and earth”, as the old heavens and earth - the old covenant kingdom and theocracy of Israel - was violently overthrown by Christ in retaliation for “all the righteous blood shed on earth” (Matt.23).

When read in the context of God’s old testament judgments, Revelation falls into place as the final recorded prophecy of God’s judgment against Israel.

In other words, Revelation was not written to us, about us, or the time in which we live.


91 posted on 12/31/2014 5:05:54 PM PST by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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