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To: ConservingFreedom
The U.S. Supreme Court rules a law constitutional, the U.S. Supreme Court is the final arbiter, yet the law can still be unconstitutional.

Got it. Does that mean we can ignore the law?

"You prove too much - complete uniformity of regulation would require that the feds set ALL rules."

Not at all. Only where the feds are regulating interstate commerce.

"The entire quotation makes clear that the purpose of the Commerce Clause is to prevent state-versus-state battles"

Yes, but not necessarily by Congress' intervention. For decades, states resolved issues between themselves in a lower federal court using the "dormant" commerce clause -- Congress can't get involved in every petty dispute between states.

"Thus, in a dormant Commerce Clause case, a court is initially concerned with whether the law facially discriminates against out-of-state actors or has the effect of favoring in-state economic interests over out-of-state interests."

This would apply perfectly to the Shreveport Rate Cases.

The U.S. Supreme Court only got involved in this case because Congress was actively regulating interstate rates. So the court ruled they could also regulate intrastate rates.

76 posted on 12/30/2014 1:40:56 PM PST by offwhite
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To: offwhite
The U.S. Supreme Court rules a law constitutional, the U.S. Supreme Court is the final arbiter, yet the law can still be unconstitutional.

Got it.

Glad you're finally in line with the dictionary definition and FR usage (cf. Roe v Wade, Obamacare). Shame it took so long.

Does that mean we can ignore the law?

No. As I've explained more than once now, "What we do about unconstitutional Supreme Court rulings is another question."

The entire quotation makes clear that the purpose of the Commerce Clause is to prevent state-versus-state battles

Yes, but not necessarily by Congress' intervention. For decades, states resolved issues between themselves in a lower federal court using the "dormant" commerce clause -- Congress can't get involved in every petty dispute between states.

"Thus, in a dormant Commerce Clause case, a court is initially concerned with whether the law facially discriminates against out-of-state actors or has the effect of favoring in-state economic interests over out-of-state interests."

This would apply perfectly to the Shreveport Rate Cases.

The U.S. Supreme Court only got involved in this case because Congress was actively regulating interstate rates. So the court ruled they could also regulate intrastate rates.

Fascinating bit of legal history. But I don't see its relevance to the point that the Shreveport Rate Cases ruling asserts the authority of Congress only with specific reference to shipping rates - and that its only broader language is to limit the ends for which that authority is meant to be used, namely preventing state-versus-state battles (which does not include all nonuniformity among states):

"Interstate trade was not left to be destroyed or impeded by the rivalries of local government. The purpose was to make impossible the recurrence of the evils which had overwhelmed the Confederation, and to provide the necessary basis of national unity by insuring 'uniformity of regulation against conflicting and discriminating state legislation.'" (emphasis added)

78 posted on 12/30/2014 2:07:04 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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