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To: SunkenCiv

If humans invent something, it exists.

The question is, whether number (in the abstract, as we understand it) exists outside of human cognition.

The development of number systems reveals more about the cross-cultural similarity of human beings, than it does the underlying structure of physical reality.


56 posted on 12/14/2014 3:38:56 PM PST by oblomov
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To: oblomov
I was a math major in college.

So I got to know many geniuses along the way.

My mind could only take me just so far, before it couldn't "grasp" higher concepts, like quaternions or octornions.

But some math people could.

One guy, a friend who was bound for a PhD used to say: "(boop), all we are doing is "discovering" things that already exist. We can noodle out mathematical concepts and pat ourselves on the back for "finding" them, but that's about it."

So the answer is YES, math exists outside of the human mind.

We can do our best to ATTEMPT an understanding of its existence.

Maybe take a swipe at trying to bring it down to our level.

But in the end, no matter how smart we think we are, mathematical concepts in 2014 are scratching the surface.

I asked my professor in functions of a complex variable: "What's really the POINT of this? Fine and dandy to know all of this, but why?"

The answer: "Because we are setting the foundation for the physics of 300 years from now."

Makes sense.

We use the math from hundreds of years ago for our physics today.

59 posted on 12/15/2014 7:40:32 PM PST by boop (I never use the words democrats and republicans. I use liberals and Americans.)
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