Great game so far (for a change). Navy just scored to tie it up at the half! Go Navy! Beat Army!
USNA ‘89
GO AIR FORCE!
Ooops,sorry...thought I was on the DUmpster forum
Maybe this year I'll see the final salute since CBS is broadcasting it.........ESPN never has.
I am sure most on this thread will appreciate the below.
I have no idea where I got it from etc so I can not give proper ‘credit’ to the author...
Also...remember all of us that were involved in VN that at the time the WWI vets were VERY OLD and decrepit..I am using a ‘comparison’ to my time ...I went in in 1956 and WWI had been over approximately 40 years.
We are slowly approaching 60 years from when I went in.
Kind of puts in perspective of me thinking the WWI guys were old.....
This is a sad commentary on what political correctness has done.
Beginning with McNamara the powers that be decided to run the US Air Force like an 8-to-5 business. Warrior leaders of General LeMay’s stature were no longer to be found. The fundamental job of the military, “kill people and break their things,” became seriously hampered by “rules of engagement” whose guiding logic is political, not successful, combat. I agree with the author. If and when the US military is defeated, it will be running the best Day Care centers in the world. We used to go to the Officers Club or NCO Club Stag Bar on Friday afternoons to drink, smoke and swap lies with our comrades. Think about this when you read the rest of the letter below. What happened to our Air Force/Marines/Army/Navy............. (or Military)?
Drinking then became frowned on. Smoking caused cancer and could “harm you.” Stag bars became seen as ‘sexist.’ Gradually, our men quit patronizing their clubs because what happened in the club became fodder for a performance report. It was the same thing at the Airman’s Club and the NCO and/or Top 3 clubs. Now we don’t have separate clubs for the ranks. Instead we have something called “All Ranks Clubs” or “Community Clubs.” They’re open to all ranks....from airman basic to general officer. Still, no one is there. Gee, I wonder why. The latest brilliant thought out of Washington is that the operators (”pilots?”) flying remote aircraft in combat areas from their plush desk at duty stations in Nevada or Arizona should draw the same combat pay as those real world pilots actually on board a plane in a hostile environment. More politically correct logic? They say that remote vehicle operators are subject to the same stress levels as the combat pilot actually flying in combat. REALLY...you’re bull-shitting me!!!??? Now that I’ve primed you a little, read on.
Here is a rant from a retired fighter pilot that is worth reading: “It is rumored that our current Secretary of Defense recently asked the question, “Where are all the dynamic leaders of the past?” I can only assume, if that is true, that he was referring to Robin Olds, Jimmy Doolittle, Patton, Ike, Boyington, Nimitz, etc.?
Well, I’ve got the answer: They were fired before they made Major! Our nation doesn’t want those kinds of leaders anymore. Squadron commanders don’t run squadrons and wing commanders don’t run wings. They are managed by higher ranking dildos with other esoteric goals in mind. Can you imagine someone today looking for a LEADER to execute that Doolittle Raid and suggesting that it be given to a daredevil boozer — his only attributes: he had the respect of his men, an awesome ability to fly, and the organizational skills to put it all together? If someone told me there was a chance in hell of selecting that man today, I would tell them they were either a liar or dumber than shit. I find it ironic that the Air Force put Brigadier General Robin Olds on the cover of the company rag last month. While it made me extremely proud to see his face, he wouldn’t make it across any base in America (or overseas) without ten enlisted folks telling him to zip up his flight suit, get rid of the cigarette, and shave his mustache off.
I have a feeling that his response would be predictable and for that crime he would probably get a trip home and an Article 15. We have lost the war on rugged individualism and that, unfortunately, is what fighter pilots want to follow; not because they have to but because they respect leaders of that ilk. We’ve all run across that leader that made us proud to follow him because you wanted to be like him and make a difference. The individual who you would drag your testicles through glass for rather than disappoint him.
We better wake the hell up! We’re asking our young men to go to really shitty places; some with unbearable climates, never have a drink, have little or no contact with the opposite sex, not look at magazines of a suggestive nature of any type, and adhere to ridiculous regs that require you to tuck your shirt into your PT uniform on the way to the porta-shitter at night, in a blinding dust storm, because it’s a uniform.
These people we’re sending to combat are some of the brightest I’ve met but they are looking for a little sanity, which they will only find on the outside if we don’t get a friggin’ clue. You can’t continue asking people to live for months or years at a time acting like nuns and priests. Hell, even they get to have a beer.
Who are we afraid of offending? The guys that already hate us enough to strap C-4 to their own bodies and walk into a crowd of us? Think about it. I’m extremely proud of our young men who continue to serve. I’m also very in tune with what they are considering for the future and I’ve got news for whoever sits in the White House, Congress, and our so-called military leaders. Much talent has and will continue to hemorrhage from our services, because wanna-be warriors are tired of fighting on two fronts - - one with our enemies, another against our lack of common sense. Take it or leave it....that’s just the way it is, no if’s and’s or but’s...................
Same time, same place, same score next year?
"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."
Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)
LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)
Good game, fun to watch.
Congratulations Navy.
B^)
Navy won, that’s unfortunate.........But these two teams represent the best our country has to offer in terms of future leadership.........God bless them all!
Squish the fish....
GO ARMY!
Thanks for the thread. I was watching the game earlier but got pulled away and wondered how it ended. So bummed that college FB is almost over. Saturdays just aren’t the same without it. :(