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Why Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 Sales Soared as Apple's iPad Sales Plunged
Motley Fool ^ | 12/11/2014 | Leo Sun

Posted on 12/11/2014 9:23:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Swordmaker

They won’t make it.


61 posted on 12/11/2014 1:50:06 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SeekAndFind
May I suggest that I buy the hardware to run the software, thus I have both an Android tablet and an iPad, in addition to two Win 7 desktops and a half dozen or so boat anchors in various stages of dis-assembly.

My main go-to machines are the desktops - nothing beats their horsepower for producing imaging, audio and video content.

As a means of freeing myself from being tied to the desktop I also have a laptop, a Winbook now running Puppy Linux. I use it primarily for talks along with my data projector.

The Android tablet (Asus TF-101), while not being the latest and greatest is adequate for surfing the web and reading e-books as well as games and it has replaced the laptop for most presentations I give. The sd card and USB port as well as the design of the OS make it easy to set up directories and move media in and out of the tablet.

I use my iPad everyday (New iPad with retina display) and consider it worth every penny I paid for it. iOS particularly shines when it comes to music, some of the apps can be a little pricey compared to other tablet apps (10 to 20 dollars each in some cases) but are a small fraction of the same software as desktop apps.

Animoog, Arturia iSEM, iMini, iVCS3, Thor Alchemy, Geosynth and Alchemy together might have cost me a hundred bucks or so while the same software for Windows might typically run one to two hundred dollars each, while, if recreated in hardware, each of these synths would be selling for two or three thousand dollars EACH!

A niche market, to be sure, but I for one am overjoyed that it exists.

62 posted on 12/11/2014 1:59:04 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: VanDeKoik
And your bizarre need to regurgitate Apple sales numbers had what to do with what I said?

Well, let's see, VanDeKoik. Do you know anything about the theory of large numbers and statistics? When your sales numbers are very low, it is very easy to double sales. . . when they are very large it is very hard to make changes in statistic metrics. My point was to point out to you that your crowing is miss applied. The 1.7% market blip of the Microsoft Surface Pro Sales against the iPad behemoth is like the Mouse and the Elephant scare story. . . the elephant really doesn't notice the mouse.

I know you guys love to live through them like you actually made the money yourselves, but seriously learn to follow a conversation before you break out the ledgers.

VanDeKoik, the ledgers were broken out in the article and were being used to distort reality. I set the record straight using facts. . . as I usually do. I know you don't like facts getting in the way of a good rant, but that's what facts do. Too bad.

Here's another. Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 is only 0.26% of the overall marketshare of tablet sales. WOW! That's a real surge for you to crow about!

Now, every product has to start somewhere and grow. . . and so did the iPad. But, Van, this is going on THREE YEARS for the Surface. It's no ingénue.

63 posted on 12/11/2014 2:03:44 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: VanDeKoik
OMG Someone had the raw nerve to say something good about a non Apple device at the expense of Apple. These %$#@%$^@# SOBs are full of @#!$%@!#%%@#$. Quick, run in and start screaming about sales figures and toss at fit with me!!!

Oh, WOW. . . nice tantrum.

64 posted on 12/11/2014 2:09:23 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: longtermmemmory; Swordmaker
odd many people consider an ipad the same as any other tablet.
(ipad is a tablet but not all tablets are an ipad)

It's funny how how all these non-Apple companies are missing the point of what Apple is doing. Apple is making products that work well with each other, to provide a seamless experience accessing your data no matter what you're using. A hybrid product misses the boat. The iPad is different than a laptop computer, and that is different than a desktop tower. Microsoft trying to push a hybrid Windows Surface tablet/laptop is like Detroit pushing the Simpsons Car - does any one thing poorly while trying to provide multiple options.

Look at the automobile industry for a comparison. The most popular sports cars are limited in those features offered in SUVs, and vice versa. You combine them and you get a lemon. I own a truck, sports car and a sedan, and enjoy each for what it does and does well. Surface will go the way of the Zune - used by declining numbers of MS fans.

65 posted on 12/11/2014 2:25:52 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Swordmaker

Now you know what sane people hear when you Apple loons get wound up.


66 posted on 12/11/2014 2:39:08 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Swordmaker

“Here’s another. Microsoft’s Surface Pro 3 is only 0.26% of the overall marketshare of tablet sales. WOW! That’s a real surge for you to crow about!”

It’s almost like when OSX goes from 5 percent to 6, and you guys throw a celebration. I’m glad you will now advocate for the removal of Apple’s failed OS because it isn’t outselling Windows. Because sales statistics are all that matters to iFanatics.


67 posted on 12/11/2014 2:49:12 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

“...Apple’s fans ran around for months mocking the Surface for every reason under the sun.

But in the usual fashion, Apple will now rush the same thing to the market, and all of their fans will say that Apple waited so that it can be “done right”.”
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Like moths mindlessly and irresistibly drawn to the light, Apple haters feel compelled to flock to treads related to Apple products and post comments belittling Apple users and Apple products.

Scanning through this thread, I find the numbers laid out in post 42 to be particularly enlightening. It’s clear that consumers are voting for what they have determined is the best product with their hard-earned dollars. And the vote is a HUGE landslide; it’s not even close.

So I encourage readers to GO TO POST 42 to do a quick look-see; the sales numbers there comparing iPad sales and Surface pro sales are the reality.


68 posted on 12/11/2014 3:35:06 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: SeekAndFind

“Why Microsoft’s Surface Pro 3 Sales Soared [to $908 million] as Apple’s iPad Sales Plunged [to $5,300 million]”


69 posted on 12/11/2014 3:47:19 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Smedley

Apple won’t be around in five years or will be a fully owned subsidiary of Lenovo or Samsung


70 posted on 12/11/2014 3:52:06 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: House Atreides

Why do you hatey hate hate the Apple haters? Just let them be.


71 posted on 12/11/2014 3:53:35 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: VanDeKoik

lol lol


72 posted on 12/11/2014 3:54:27 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: VanDeKoik
Now you know what sane people hear when you Apple loons get wound up.

You've never come across as sane in an Apple thread. . .

73 posted on 12/11/2014 5:05:02 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Catphish

Would love one! A friend had one and it was incredible.


74 posted on 12/11/2014 5:08:36 PM PST by rintense
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To: VanDeKoik
It’s almost like when OSX goes from 5 percent to 6, and you guys throw a celebration. I’m glad you will now advocate for the removal of Apple’s failed OS because it isn’t outselling Windows. Because sales statistics are all that matters to iFanatics.

Meanwhile, Windows computers are losing market share and Mac OS X is gaining market share driven by an 18% YOY growth the previous quarter and 13% this last quarter, while Windows lost 22.6%). . . and in the far more important metric of profit share, Apple is taking home 53% of the entire PC industry's profits.

"Apple’s Mac marketshare hit record highs during the third calendar quarter of 2014, according to research firm IDC. Official numbers from the firm’s quarterly PC tracker show that Apple’s Q3 shipments topped 2.34 million Macs moved during the quarter in the U.S., giving it 13.4 percent market share and putting it in third place behind HP and Dell. That’s the best market share Apple has every achieved in the PC market, which for IDC’s purposes, doesn’t even include tablets like the iPad.

Mac market share rose from 12.9 percent in Q3 2013 to, with sales up from 2.07 million units during the year ago quarter. Growth among the top five vendors in the U.S. was up in general, without Acer and Dell both posting higher increases in terms of percentage, but across the rest of the field, sales were generally down – 22.6 percent in fact. The overall market in the U.S. rose 4.5 percent, with the gains from the leaders outweighing other losses.

Apple’s share grew 20.5 percent between Q3 2013 and Q3 2014 on the global stage, with 5.51 million units shipped in the most recent quarter, making up 69 percent of all sales and putting it at number 5 overall among the top PC makers. That share is up from 5.7 percent during the same period last year.". — "Mac Achieves Highest U.S. PC Market Share Ever In Q3 2014 According To IDC"— November 7, 2014 TechCrunch.

Again, you are hoist on the petard of hard data. Facts, VanDeKoik, that you so detest. So tell us again, exactly how can it be a "failed OS?"

75 posted on 12/11/2014 5:37:46 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: dennisw
Apple won’t be around in five years or will be a fully owned subsidiary of Lenovo or Samsung

We are still waiting for your LAST prediction where Apple was supposed to crash to an unspilt $100 a share. . . It is now at an an unspilt $781.64. When is it going to crash, DennisW? You claimed you shorted AAPL. . . how much did you lose on those shorts?

Also those non-existent Apple bonds? What about them? Apple now does have some. . . did you buy any?

In fact, CityBank just raised its target value for AAPL by 20% and TheStreet analysts claim that at its current valuation, AAPL is, wait for it, UNDERVALUED. They expect Apple to hit a 30% increase in profits in the next year factoring the opening iPad and iPhone 6 and 6plus sales in China and India, the addition of Apple Pay which is growing by leaps and bounds in the retail markets, and the coming introduction of the Apple Watch.

76 posted on 12/11/2014 5:52:20 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users contnue...)
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To: Swordmaker

“Meanwhile, Windows computers are losing market share and Mac OS X is gaining market share driven by an 18% YOY growth the previous quarter and 13% this last quarter, while Windows lost 22.6%). . . and in the far more important metric of profit share, Apple is taking home 53% of the entire PC industry’s profits. “

LOL! Completely like I predicted.

Only a nut job actually has their head this far up some company’s ass that THIS is what your sad life consists of.

Rambling about “profit share” and YOY growth of an OS of a company you dont even work for!

“You’ve never come across as sane in an Apple thread. . “

Dude, seek help. One day when that company starts to fade away, we are going to find you on a bridge, hugging a picture of Steve Jobs, whispering for him to catch you in his loving arms as you push off.


77 posted on 12/11/2014 6:21:16 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Swordmaker

Pages is a weak and crippled piece of software that I have found to be useless for many reasons


78 posted on 12/11/2014 6:23:04 PM PST by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: House Atreides

Like flys mindlessly and irresistibly drawn to a pile of $hit, Apple loons feel compelled to swarm to treads related to non-Apple products and post comments belittling those products and pulling charts out of their ass to reassure them that no one could possible dare choose something that isn’t made by their illustrious LGBT CEO, and to belittle any idea that someone may actually like using something that isn’t made by Apple.

Hell they even have a ping list to summon the cult to action the moment the RDF is disturbed.


79 posted on 12/11/2014 6:34:14 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

“Like flys mindlessly and irresistibly drawn to a pile of $hit, Apple loons feel compelled to swarm to treads related to non-Apple products...”
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Jeez, I wouldn’t go so far as to analogize “a pile of $hit” to “non-Apple products” as you have done. I guess that ADS (Apple Derangement Syndrome) can drive some folks to a weird place to say weird things.


80 posted on 12/11/2014 7:24:52 PM PST by House Atreides
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