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Why Microsoft's Surface Pro 3 Sales Soared as Apple's iPad Sales Plunged
Motley Fool ^ | 12/11/2014 | Leo Sun

Posted on 12/11/2014 9:23:14 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: PaForBush

I agree with this. The only way my iPad Air (company owned) or my iPad 2 is remotely usable as a serious business-capable device is to have both paired with Bluetooth keyboards/keyboard cases. Even then, without remote desktop capabilities with the office, the devices revert to their native state, media consumption.


21 posted on 12/11/2014 10:03:58 AM PST by OriginalChristian (The end of America, as founded, began when the first Career Politician was elected...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“But one small company makes Apple’s gadget possible.”

What company?


22 posted on 12/11/2014 10:07:33 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: freedumb2003

LMAO!


23 posted on 12/11/2014 10:08:33 AM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: ifinnegan

Ahh, for that, you’ll have to subscribe.

And they want you to watch the video :

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24 posted on 12/11/2014 10:09:40 AM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Apple has a very dedicated following, but it isn’t growing very much. I believe that the Surface is doing very well but I have yet to meet someone who actually owns one.

I like android tablets.


25 posted on 12/11/2014 10:12:33 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes. It’s the tease.

I think I actually read it before, but forgot.

I’m asking you if you know the name.


26 posted on 12/11/2014 10:12:52 AM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Smedley

Apple will resist removable memory because they want to maintain control of the copyrighted media libraries stored on iPads. Those libraries are often worth more than the device, and Apple does not want people swapping them around.


27 posted on 12/11/2014 10:19:43 AM PST by Haiku Guy (Every driver with a "Ready For Hillary" bumper sticker had to scrape off a "Obama 12" bumper sticker)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce; Las Vegas Dave; Swordmaker

Walmart is running that new HP ultralight for $200. The main problem that one has is the OS — Windows 8.1. Crawls compared to its competition, which is running Android.

The fact is, iPad sales slumps are due to the other reasons cited, and not due to the Surface — the sales of the Surface are to people who can’t see the screens of their smart phones (any brand) and want a more normally sized computer with more capability than their phones.


28 posted on 12/11/2014 10:21:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______________________Celebrate the Polls, Ignore the Trolls)
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To: SeekAndFind
It's really two entirely different market niches, one of which, the iPad/tablet, is saturated, the other, a high-powered desktop replacement that is sort of in a heavy datapad format, isn't saturated.

I've used both. They're both overpriced. ;-)

29 posted on 12/11/2014 10:25:56 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone know if there’s a convenient way to run a Linux distro with support for the touch-screen interface on a Surface or Surface Pro?

They are very nice hardware, the keyboard and stylus being great improvements over the competing iPad — I used one to check something on the internet at a kiosk hawking them at a mall in Seattle — but I still hate Microsoft’s operating system and software generally. (I use Macs at home and Linux at the office, and I think the only Microsoft code running on any of my machines is Silverlight since some sites have the bad grace to link their video content to its use.)


30 posted on 12/11/2014 10:32:05 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Jonty30

Right now with the watch being really just another interface for the phone there’s really isn’t much attraction other than being alpha-nerd. In a couple of generations when the watch BECOMES the phone...


31 posted on 12/11/2014 10:33:54 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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BFL


32 posted on 12/11/2014 10:51:26 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: SunkenCiv
"...Windows 8.1. Crawls compared to its competition..."

I went from Win7 to Win8.1 - the latter waaay better in terms of speed and stability. Light years better, actually.

33 posted on 12/11/2014 10:57:26 AM PST by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: dfwgator
I think Apple slowly is trying to merge iOS and OS/X, and then it will happen.

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't see why Apple couldn't in the short-run make a MacBook Air Touch that just runs both OS's with a shared storage area for user files. Detach the keyboard and iOS loads automatically - reattach it and OS/X comes back. It might be slightly cumbersome in some ways, but I imagine such a device would still sell very well. I'd buy it. :)

34 posted on 12/11/2014 11:00:13 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Catphish

The surface is a hybrid product, its a laptop that can kind of function like a tablet when you absolutely need it to..

That’s its market, and that’s where it will stay.

Its an option for folks who need an ultrabook, but also at times may need some tablet functions.

It is not a direct competitor for the iPad, and that’s why it flopped so badly in its first few renditions because MS tried so damned hard to sell the thing as a tablet, its not... its an ultrabook with a different form factor.


35 posted on 12/11/2014 11:19:19 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Well, rumors are that both a 12” iPad and 12” MacBook Air are coming. Put the processing on the display half, and the physical interfaces on the bottom half, make ‘em detachable, and add the iOS/OSX auto-switch - there ya go.


36 posted on 12/11/2014 11:19:35 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: VanDeKoik
People that will actually pay over 300 dollars for a watch of dubious usefulness? I doubt it.

There will be some early adopters, no doubt, and a series of improved products, just like every other Apple product, along with lower prices. The first iPod was 5 gigs and cost $399.

I think they're going to catch on, although I won't buy one for a while. Think of it as a front end for the phone in your pocket and the ear bud in your ear. Read a text or see who is calling or pick another song without pulling out the phone. Just taps on the wrist. I predict that in ten years they'll be ubiquitous, whether made by Apple or competitors.

37 posted on 12/11/2014 11:19:45 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels"-- Tom Waits)
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To: Billthedrill
It's really two entirely different market niches, one of which, the iPad/tablet, is saturated, the other, a high-powered desktop replacement that is sort of in a heavy datapad format, isn't saturated.

Yup. And claiming that Apple investers are suffering because iPad sales are down while Surface sales are up is like saying that Toyota investers are suffering because Corolla sales are down while Mini Cooper sales are up. Apple sold about 13 million iPads. Microsoft sold maybe a little more than 1 million Surfaces, if they took in 900 million dollars.

It looks like Microsoft actually is making money off of it already, which beats the first few years of its Xbox offerings. Nonetheless, there is no cause/effect relationship between Microsoft's promising but non-disruptive entry. Apple's % decline in the pad segment is due to saturation and the slew of Android based options, with Samsung alone dwarfing Microsoft's presence.
38 posted on 12/11/2014 11:47:25 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
I don't see why Apple couldn't in the short-run make a MacBook Air Touch that just runs both OS's with a shared storage area for user files.

iOS runs on ARM processors, MacOS runs on Intel processors. Go ARM, lose performance on the MacOS side. Go Intel, lose battery life on the iOS side. Go both, have a monstrous, buggy behemoth.
39 posted on 12/11/2014 11:50:10 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: SeekAndFind

ipad is just a step to make all use of computers subscription based. no pay no access to YOUR data.

cloud BS


40 posted on 12/11/2014 11:55:40 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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