[mabarker1]

Thanks for the info. Next time We go to JRM I’ll tell them just in case they have not thought of that.

[Chode]

they may ALREADY come in from Corning so they don’t have the hills to deal with, and it maybe a mile or two shorter but i’m not sure

this is the turn up to the track if coming from the south

if you hit street view you can see it would be easy to high center

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